Re: Printing with No Color Management (again)
Re: Printing with No Color Management (again)
- Subject: Re: Printing with No Color Management (again)
- From: Chris Murphy <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:58:47 -0600
On Apr 14, 2011, at 3:38 AM, Martin Orpen wrote:
> On 14 Apr 2011, at 04:19, Scott Geffert wrote:
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>> I blame Apple for it's "skunkworks" approach to software development, but I also blame Adobe for abandoning end user color management and shipping tools with inconsistent user interfaces for color and numeric readouts. Epson and others are simply trying to stay ahead of this ever-changing mess.
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> So Epson are blameless?
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> The only trouble-free Epson's that we use are those that use RIPs to dispense with their drivers. Their drivers are complicated to use -- for example: roll, sheet, borderless, banner, manual, retain size.... how many more types of A4 page setup could it be possible to select? And all of them changing the options further down the line in the print dialogue.
Keep in mind that how this works is platform specific. The platform dictates most of the rules for how page setups are going to get defined. So this is not just an Epson driver dialog. It's an Apple+Epson print dialog, or a Microsoft+Epson dialog. Or Microsoft+Canon dialog. Now, there are some legitimate complaints between the different workarounds for the operating system dictates that the print manufacturer's driver comes up with, but in reality they are fairly limited in what they can do without hacking a system that can change at any time. If they do something non-standard, they risk the driver breaking with an OS update. And then having to go back and re-release drivers.
And at a certain point in time, driver development simply stops, and even catastrophic failure isn't going to get fixed. The companies are encouraged to not use non-standard tricks in order for their driver development to last as long as possible without needing to be updated.
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> Make a new manual page size for a big roll-fed machine and there is no warning that this is treated as a modification to the default page size that was selected before you made the modification. The driver allows you to create a 20x16 page size and then just prints the A4 section because the client had that set as a default.
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> Considering that they are charging their poorest customers well over £1000 a litre for ink you'd think they'd be able to make more of an effort on the software front too...
It's a valid complaint. But the software doesn't function autonomously. There are dependencies.
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>> LIke others have said, we were much better off eight years ago. I think it is clear that the days of Apple being the platform of choice for color are numbered. Between the color issues of the iPad and the mess created over ICC support under MacOS 10.6.x, It will take a lot of damage control to sort this out.
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> What is the "platform of choice for colour" then?
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> A Windoze box with a RIP -- as it has always been.
If we're talking specifically about the inconsistent and unreliable ability to disable ColorSync from our applications/drivers, then the options aren't restricted to Windows with a RIP. You can use either Windows with the native print driver from the manufacturer, or a Mac OS based RIP as well which gets you around the Mac OS print pipeline.
Chris
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