Re: Profile Editor
Re: Profile Editor
- Subject: Re: Profile Editor
- From: david wollmann <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:15:36 -0600
We use 3 medias, Fine Art Canvas, Premium Matte -for proofing the
canvas on occasion, and an Archival Rag paper, all third party. The
Canvas and the Matte are a good match, the Rag paper is a natural
paper that is very yellow, L96 a0 b4 (approximate) Its very yellow
compared to the Canvas and the Matte which probably have some optical
brighteners added.
The spectro is UV filtered, excluded. i1iO.
We recently needed to have the pump replaced on the Epson 9800. This
radically changed the behavior of the printer. I was getting delta e
2000 values above 14 after the repair.
I rebuilt all 3 profiles, and even had to reduce the ink output from
the heads. Prior to this the Epson was very consistent over the last 2
years. I optimized my ink restrictions based on Chroma values for CMY.
Linearization was built and then Ink Limiting set. We use the target
with 2989 patches, works great.
In order to have all three medias print in a similar fashion I must
edit either the canvas or the Rag paper. My friend will insist that
they all print similar. This is hard when the white points are so
different but he does additions on the Canvas and on the Rag paper.
(I've suggested other papers so that all the white points are similar…
no sale yet)
In the past I think I made slight edits to the canvas to "warm" it up
some and slight edits to the Rag paper to "cool" it off some. (my
notes are at his studio) Anyway, we achieved a match he was happy
with. Now I'm starting over again.
My test prints look really good for the Canvas and the Matte paper –
and they match 2 year old test prints, the Rag paper of course has a
more yellow look to it – which matches its old unedited test print.
I have Monaco here at my office, but not at his home/studio. I guess I
could take a copy and the dongle over there. I'm more familiar with
Monaco anyway versus ProfileMaker. Will we need to go back to 10.5 to
make Profile Editor work?
How else would I tackle this problem of different paper whites?
Thank you,
David Wollmann
On May 19, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Scott Martin wrote:
1) what edits are you needing to make? Are you measuring with a UV
filtered device (as ColorBurst suggests)? Can you make a better
profile that doesn't need editing?
2) Have you tried editing in Monaco Profiler? SpectalVision's
profile generation component is Monaco Profiler's so editing
profiles with MP makes sense.
But I think the "Can I make a better profile that doesn't need
editing?" question is key here as that always leeds to the better
solution.
Scott Martin
www.on-sight.com
On May 19, 2011, at 11:47 AM, david wollmann wrote:
Hello,
I'm helping a friend set up a stand alone Mac for his Colorburst
RIP and for all Color Management so that we can get away from the
workflow being constantly broken by updates. I was going to
recommend to him that we use Mac OS 10.5 but before I could tell
him he already had Snow Leopard (10.6.x) installed.
This seemed okay until I needed to edit a profile using Profile
Editor v5.0.10. The program launches okay but then the screen does
not always correctly show all the tools. For example the CMYK
indicator patches for Gradation, curves adjustment, all show as
black patches. (If I want to adjust the yellow curve I select the
third black patch from the top!!)
It will let me make edits but nothing seems to actually be applied
to my newly saved profile. I tried changing the white point but
ColorThink Pro still reports the old white point. I tried other
edits but actual prints show no difference.
Can someone confirm weather or not Profile Maker's Profile Editor
works with Mac OS 10.6.7?
Xrite's site says that Profile Maker is compatible with Mac OS
10.6, but I have my suspicions that not all modules work. So far I
have not found any info that says otherwise.
The rest of the software that he has seems to work fine;
ColorBurst RIP v7
SpectalVision Pro v2.5 (a flavor of ColorPort specifically for the
ColorBurst RIP. We build the profiles with this.)
MeasureTool v5.0.10 (I have not tried ProfileMaker since we build
ICC profiles with SpectralVision)
ColorPort v2.0.1
I can even use the unsupported ColorLab v2.8.12
Thank you,
David Wollmann
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