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Re: It's The White Stupid
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Re: It's The White Stupid


  • Subject: Re: It's The White Stupid
  • From: Louis Servedio-Morales <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:11:59 -0400

Thanks Mike.  The problem I see with this calculator is that I have no way of printing on the final "substrate" with my inkjet printer to read patches from.  The best I can do is find some inkjet paper (coated for inkjet inks), and I do have a few, who's white is similar in paper white brightness  and possible OBAs as the final substrate to be used.  I can build a good RGB profile to print on this paper straight up with the help of i1Profiler and OBC profiling.  But can I use this in any way to simulate press conditions with the non GraCol paper via any  icc sophistry?

-Louis

On Oct 3, 2012, at 7:05 PM, Michael Eddington <email@hidden> wrote:

> Gracol has a substrate whiteness calculator to compensate for
> differences in paper whiteness, which has some degree of success with
> papers with OBAs. It's available on the Idealliance website. You may
> find it useful.
>
> Mike Eddington
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 3, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Louis Servedio-Morales
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> “It’s the white stupid” has been my most recent mantra.  I’m a retoucher with a new client who’s printing ranges from “natural” white papers to papers containing high amounts of OBA’s.  So, in attempts to please this client I have decided to fall into the OBA rabbit hole without any detail understanding as to how printers use the icc standards workflow ( i.e. GraCol) when printing to these papers.  As I understand it and putting it simply, the GraCol control strip can only pass certification when printed properly on paper containing no OBAs and only a specified amount of brightness (i.e. L=95).  So this leads me to two main issues. One is how to proof my work for this client and simulate how it would look on a bright white paper stock (e.g. McCoy Silk)?  Well aware that the white of the paper (blueness) influences the overall color well into the midtones.  And two, can a printer make use of the "non-standard" proof and file that created it?   Any help on this matter is appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Louis Servedio-Morales
>>
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