Re: iMac Monitor calibration
Re: iMac Monitor calibration
- Subject: Re: iMac Monitor calibration
- From: Spinnaker Photo Imaging Center <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 19:16:30 -0700
Thank you! Agreed.
David
Millers' Photography L.L.C.
David Miller, member
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On Apr 26, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Roger Breton <email@hidden> wrote:
> I need to qualify my statement...
>
> "Visually match" is large term. The extent to which a MacbookPro can be visually matched to a NEC PA Series display is a question of "which part of color space".
> It's possible to arrive at a convincing match on, say, skintones, or foliage, or blue skys or grays or other useful tone area. But that's a "mutually exclusive" proposition, in my view, even with the best tools available today. In my very, very humble opinion, it is hard to expect "simultaneous" visually matching across a wide range of tones because of the wide differences between the two kinds of displays. I mean, let's be realistic.
>
> / Roger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Vanderlinden [mailto:email@hidden]
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 5:26 PM
> To: Spinnaker Photo Imaging Center
> Cc: Roger Breton; email@hidden; Jim Lennon
> Subject: Re: iMac Monitor calibration
>
> I don't understand--- -- - - -
>
> If we are saying here that we are unable to define a lowest-common-denominator, that both high end and mid-range monitors could be calibrated and profiled to, then I don't understand why not.
> (I also don't understand what you would want to do this.
> You would end up with two monitors with less display capacity than the cheaper one, if any part of the cheaper monitor's gamut exceeds that of the more expensive one.
> At best you're paying for something you're not using with the dumbed-down high end monitor.)
>
> If we are saying that there must be something wrong with our profiling equipment or technique if we can't make a mid-range monitor behave like an optimized high-end monitor, then I don't understand this conversation.
>
> - - - -- ---Tom Vanderlinden, 26 April 2013
>
> On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Spinnaker Photo Imaging Center <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> I would assume, academically speaking of course, the MacBook Pro 8,3
>> 17inch non-glare displays could visually match the NEC PA 271i, sort of, according to Roger.
>>
>> One issue is density. However, what is to be done with RG and B?
>>
>> I would like more suggestions on this.
>>
>> I have tried for years to have my MacBook Pro's 4,1 and my two 8,3's get close in color, RGB. I have never succeeded. Density, yes. I use a solid medium gray
>> for background on all displays. When it comes to the colors, I quit. As I wrote, I have been doing this exercise for years…since 2008.
>>
>> My fantasy would be the two types of displays could match. Who else has this fantasy?
>>
>> Kind of reminds me of when ColorEyes Pro was available. What I misunderstood was ColorEyes Pro can not profile any monitor to match a high
>> end NEC PA 271w. In my amusing way, I was relating this to an antenna tuner. The antenna tuner could tune bedsprings for transmission and
>> reception. Oh well. I am always learning.
>>
>> Thanks all.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> David
>>
>> Millers' Photography L.L.C.
>> David Miller, member
>> Spinnaker Photo Imaging Center
>> email@hidden
>> www.spinnakerphotoimagingcenter.com
>> 360 739 2826
>>
>> On Apr 26, 2013, at 1:01 PM, Roger Breton <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>>> It is possible, to some extent, to visually match the iMac to the
>>> NEC. But this needs to be done iteratively, empirically.
>>> Colorimetry alone, i.e. same calibrated XYZ white point off the two
>>> displays, will not result in a visual match, sadly.
>>>
>>> Not in my experience.
>>>
>>> Interesting problem...
>>>
>>> / Roger
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=email@hidden
>>> [mailto:colorsync-users-bounces+graxx=email@hidden]
>>> On Behalf Of Jim Lennon
>>> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 11:31 AM
>>> To: email@hidden
>>> Subject: Re: iMac Monitor calibration
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:27:50 -0700 David Miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the critical profiling of the new iMac display, it will
>>>> never
>>> every match the NEC display. It is just not built the way the
>>> independent NEC is.
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it possible to use a current iMac with an NEC like the one being
>>> described (or a Lacie 526, like I have) where the iMac is simply a
>>> location for tools, etc. and only the other monitor is calibrated?
>>> Can an Eye One
>>> Display2 be used to calibrate the other monitor?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
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