Re: Soft Proofing with White Border
Re: Soft Proofing with White Border
- Subject: Re: Soft Proofing with White Border
- From: Steve Jenkins <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 18:28:19 -0400
Ken, I'm not sure if this link helps but in the section labeled "Surround", there's some pertinent info. The main info is: at least 2" surround of neutral gray 10%-60%.
http://info.gtilite.com/2011/01/what-is-iso-3664/
But their main reason is to not get a color bias from the area surrounding the image. So it's more of an optical gray reference then as a highlight reference. Either way it's important!
And no, I have nothing to do with GTI.
HTH - Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Fleisher" <email@hidden>
To: "ColorSync Users Mailing List" <email@hidden>
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 16:11
Subject: Re: Soft Proofing with White Border
> Thanks everyone for the replies so far. I am not trying to test the
> necessity of a white border on the soft-proof (I already know it's
> necessary) or to model it (I've read papers on building models to adjust
> for surround). What I am looking for is a plain-English description of the
> problem for the lay person, to try and help them understand why it's
> important. Preferably this description will be on a .org site and have some
> confidence of longevity for the link!
>
> Anyhow, thanks for the comments. At least now some of you may be aware of a
> practice that you weren't aware of before, even if I can't find a new link.
> :)
>
> Ken
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Mike Strickler <email@hidden> wrote:
>
>> You can test this empirically: The difference is dramatic.
>>
>> On a somewhat related note, if you are proofing for press, and the paper
>> proof has a paper white simulation added to the background (i.e., printed
>> with absolute colorimetric rendering intent), trim off all margins that are
>> outside the job and show the naked bright white of the unprinted paper. If
>> left on the proof the perception of the proof will be that of darkness and
>> dinginess, as the eye takes its cue from the brightest "white" in the field
>> of view.
>>
>> Mike Strickler
>> MSP Graphic Services
>>
>> >
>> > Message: 1
>> > Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 15:27:43 -0400
>> > From: Ken Fleisher <email@hidden>
>> > To: ColorSync Users Mailing List <email@hidden>
>> > Subject: Soft Proofing with White Border
>> > Message-ID:
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>> >
>> > It is recommended that when you soft proof an image on screen compared
>> to a
>> > print on white paper (or predicting the print on white paper), that you
>> > have a minimum 1" white border surrounding the image on screen. Does
>> anyone
>> > know of a good link to a (preferably) non-profit web site that explains
>> in
>> > plain English why this is necessary? I need to supply a good reference
>> for
>> > it and the link I had been using has gone dead.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> > Ken Fleisher
>> >
>>
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