Re: Fogra 51/52
Re: Fogra 51/52
- Subject: Re: Fogra 51/52
- From: Paul Sherfield <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 09:13:03 +0000
- Thread-topic: Fogra 51/52
Hi
I attended the Fogra Symposium. I was told that the public release of
these datasets for ‘high’ OBA stocks, using M1 readings would be ‘in a few
weeks’.
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On 23/02/2014 20:00, "email@hidden"
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>Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:12:37 -0800
>From: Mike Strickler <email@hidden>
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>The term is applied to commercial print or proof providers. In this case
>it has no meaning at all.
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>Mike Strickler
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:41:10 -0600
>> From: Mark Franzen <email@hidden>
>> To: "email@hidden"
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>> Subject: GraCol and SWOP certification
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>> Hello all -
>>
>> I am a retoucher helping a commercial photographer bid on a job. One
>>of the questions was "are you GraCol / SWOP certified?".
>>
>> To my understanding, that is a way of proving that your proofing system
>>is capable of printing within specified tolerances.
>>
>> The photographer will not be doing any proofing, and will just be
>>providing RGB images to be used for e-commerce.
>>
>> I am just looking for some clarity on the specifics of being
>>"certified", and what it would take to get "certified".
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Mark Franzen
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>Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 12:27:26 -0800
>From: Glenncolorguy <email@hidden>
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>There is always confusion on "g7certified" vs "g7 qualified".
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>Certification is given to systems that have met G7 requirements per
>IDEAlliance.
>
>Qualification is given to operations that have demonstrated ability to
>proof or print to G7 specifications.
>
>In the case of the photographer who provides neither proofs nor prints,
>qualification may not be relevant, though he probably should be prepared
>to demonstrate that his monitors are capable of compliance with G7
>requirements.
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>> Hello all -
>>
>> I am a retoucher helping a commercial photographer bid on a job. One
>>of the questions was "are you GraCol / SWOP certified?".
>>
>> To my understanding, that is a way of proving that your proofing system
>>is capable of printing within specified tolerances.
>>
>> The photographer will not be doing any proofing, and will just be
>>providing RGB images to be used for e-commerce.
>>
>> I am just looking for some clarity on the specifics of being
>>"certified", and what it would take to get "certified".
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Mark Franzen
>>
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>Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 14:28:04 -0600
>From: Marc Levine <email@hidden>
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>Subject: Re: Colorsync-users Digest, Vol 11, Issue 19
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>Hi Mark,
>³Certification² is awarded by IDEAlliance to either people (G7 experts),
>or systems (G7 certified proofing systems, as you mentioned).
>
>Just because a system is certified does not mean it¹s proofs are
>certified� it just means that the system is capable of producing a proof
>that is within the tolerances of SWOP or GRACoL.
>
>SWOP and GRACoL are CMYK-based specifications, so there is really no such
>thing as SWOP and GRACoL certified (or anything¹d) RGB.
>
>If you are preparing your images to be reproduced in a SWOP/GRACoL print
>condition, you should create a proof of those images, converted into
>SWOP/GRACoL and include a control wedge that can be measured to confirm
>that your proof is within specification. It is the measurements of the
>proof control wedge that will dictate whether or not the proof is within
>specification of SWOP or GRACoL (not anything else).
>
>>From an RGB retouching perspective, not something you should need to
>>worry
>about. You might consider retouching in the colorspace you are creating
>the images for. In this case, if you are prepping for either GRACoL or
>SWOP, you would transform the image into the appropriate colorspace and
>retouch from there. Of course, that would put you into CMYK. There¹s
>plusses and minus either way.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Marc
>
>
>>Hello all -
>>
>>I am a retoucher helping a commercial photographer bid on a job. One of
>>the questions was "are you GraCol / SWOP certified?".
>>
>>To my understanding, that is a way of proving that your proofing system
>>is capable of printing within specified tolerances.
>>
>>The photographer will not be doing any proofing, and will just be
>>providing RGB images to be used for e-commerce.
>>
>>I am just looking for some clarity on the specifics of being "certified",
>>and what it would take to get "certified".
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Mark Franzen
>
>
>
>
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>Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2014 12:40:06 -0600
>From: Mike Stewart <email@hidden>
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>Subject: Fogra Symposium - Munich 2014
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>Hello All: Any information regarding Fogra 52 Profile or Dataset
>coming from the Fogra Symposium? I followed a thread, joined the Fogra
>Mailing List and from there I became lost. Website says to join the
>Fogra 52 Beta users list and also the Fogra members. I cannot tell if
>I actually joined the members list; or if the Fogra 52 Beta is
>actually not ready for download. I'm just confused (as usual) but
>wondering if I have done something wrong. I am quite interested in
>Fogra 52.
>
>Mike Stewart
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