Re: rendering intents (was: In search of a D50...)
Re: rendering intents (was: In search of a D50...)
- Subject: Re: rendering intents (was: In search of a D50...)
- From: edward taffel <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:05:01 -0400
the ColorSync api (to the best of my recollection) never published a function to return a list of available intents for a given profile—which would be requisite to determine grayed items. i expect this data is adduceable from the profile header: can anyone (who knows all intent relative tags) write down instructions to list the intents present? if so, it might be interesting to fork this thread on ColorSync-dev & add expert knowledge in the developer space.
cheers,
edward taffel
On Sep 5, 2014, at 3:36 PM, Rich Wagner <email@hidden> wrote:
> This is exactly the point I tried to make in the bug report. The user *is* being lied to. The UI creates confusion, because in these circumstances users are expecting the app to be doing exactly what it says, and the app is intentionally doing something else without informing them. There are plenty of instances where the UI prevents someone from doing something that is not appropriate or possible. Assign a CMYK profile to an RGB image? Convert a 16-bit image in sRGB to indexed color? Or an 8-bit Lab image to indexed color? Take a 32-bit image and Save for Web as a JPG? The list goes on and on, and I fail to see the difference in this case. I still feel that if a rendering intent is not appropriate, it should be greyed out. The astute user will ask why and will learn something. The less astute user will just do what is allowed, and will realize that certain transformations are not allowed in certain circumstances. I fail to see the “confusion” that is created. To the contrary, it prevents users from thinking that certain transformations are allowed when they are not, “because Photoshop can do it.”
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> —Rich Wagner
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> On Sep 5, 2014, at 12:00 PM, email@hidden wrote:
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>> On Sep 5, 2014, at 11:45 AM, Steve Upton <email@hidden> wrote:
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>>>> Further, some users will complain that they're being denied access to
>>>> rendering intents.:-)
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>>> But you see, that’s the exact problem I find with users, only in reverse. They complain that they’re granted access to intents that don’t exist.
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>> I think this is a classic UI issue. We should not be shown a Rendering Intent we can't use. I don't see why in this context, the RI's that don't apply are not grayed out.
>> User's can't complain. They should not be granted access to selecting something that isn't going to do what they select, they are kind of being lied to.
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>> Andrew Rodney
>> http://www.digitaldog.net/
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