Re: Silly question department, Display Media White Point
Re: Silly question department, Display Media White Point
- Subject: Re: Silly question department, Display Media White Point
- From: John Lund <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:06:22 -0800
Hi list,
OK, coming out of lurk mode briefly - can't hold myself back any longer...
Ernst wrote:
> What about a complete new set of color spaces that have more relation to
> today's practices?
All this energy about updating color spaces makes me wonder (again), why are we still stuck with the infamous "U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2.icc" profile?
I'm not disputing the need to define color in some legacy files. But why is a profile describing some imaginary printing condition from 30+ years ago, on cheap paper (I guess you could say both the printing technology & paper of that day no longer exist?) the *default CMYK working space in Photoshop (North America)?
Of course, that makes it also the default CMYK for most RIP installations, the default for prepress (what remains of it) in even high-end print vendors, the default for even some reputedly "high-end" commercial graphics vendors. And we know how few people ever change default settings in any software!
Many years ago, we learned to supply quality separations from digital captures, simply by targeting the printer's contract proofing system - I remember the prepress guy asking "how come you guys get better saturation [& color] than we do?", so how do you convert the capture file?, "oh, I go Mode>CMYK" (didn't have to guess what his CMYK Working Space was). Recently finished a huge project prepping large image files for grand format output at international trade show, and the supposedly "high-end" commercial print vendor doing these enormous inkjet output was driving the printer with Onyx RIP, set for - you guessed it - "SWOP".
Will "U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2.icc" be the default CMYK space forever? Will Photoshop CC 2034 *still ship that way? ;-)
Maybe the Adobe team got so traumatized by the reaction to Photoshop 5's intro of color management (remember the infamous "convert on opening" RGB default?) that they never again want to impose anything new in file handling? Who knows. I just wish someday to not have to spend (waste?) half my time trying to get clients & vendors to stop hosing color in image files. Wouldn't the world be a better place with more intelligent choices for both RGB and CMYK color spaces?
Whew!
Thanks for the lively information exchange here!
John
JWL Images
Emeryville, CA
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