Re: Apple laptops
Re: Apple laptops
- Subject: Re: Apple laptops
- From: Mark Stegman <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 23:51:20 +1000
Mark,
I hear what your saying and it echoes the practical realist in me that
recognises the constraints of the market but I would like to test it all
the same. I didn't really start this conversation looking for a reality
check. I've to that already.
I am quite sympathetic to your perspective on quality control. I gave up
trying to profile my laptop display for the same reasons you cite. To me
the biggest variable in this respect is the viewing conditions so contract
colour management is not going to make or break it. I've seen discussions
on this forum about profile phones!
Speaking of which, I do question your take on things 'getting smaller' as
the optimum size seems to roam all over the pace depending on the utility.
Phones get bigger while tablets get smaller. In the professional
photoimaging world there is still an attachment to printed things and some
of these are getting VERY big. It might be a 'niche' market but wide format
printing is just about the only area of significant growth in printing at
the moment and, unlike the past, a lot of these larger-than-life prints are
viewed 'up close and personal' where the 'ultra' high definition of some
cameras can be really appreciated. iPhone 6 images are on billboards
everywhere (and not too close to see the detail) but the footnote says
they've been 'optimised' for for display (or words to that effect) and no
doubt, in a studio with a colour managed environment and some post
processing.
To be more realistic take the landscape photographer that travels through
some of the more remote regions. They need portability. Are they going to
wait until they get home to their colour managed office to start viewing
and editing? Apart from that the extra 'real estate' gives you enough room
for the tools and palettes of your applications.
It might be 'pie in the sky' but from my point of view there is a gap in
the market and a high quality laptop that is not totally oriented around
social media and happy snaps is what's missing. Granted, there may not be
enough people out there that would pay for it to make it a viable
proposition. That's what I'm trying to find out.
Mark
On 15 July 2015 at 22:02, MARK SEGAL <email@hidden> wrote:
> Photo editing on a laptop is OK for elementary first-around adjustments,
> but beyond that a waste of time unless you are very adept at colour
> managing the display and maintaining the angle of vision between your face
> and display exactly right all the time; precious few would have this
> capability. If Apple discontinued the 17" models it most likely means there
> is insufficient demand to justify the overhead involved in design,
> production, marketing and support. Model upgrades are non-trivial
> undertakings, and the world is increasingly moving to "smaller is better".
> One can always wish for anything, but at some point the reality of the
> market takes hold.
>
> Mark
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Mark Stegman <email@hidden>
> *To:* colorsync-users <email@hidden>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2015 3:56 AM
> *Subject:* Apple laptops
>
> Apple laptop users,
>
> This sort of discussion is a bit of an indulgence but I have been thinking
> about this for quite a while and the forum is quiet at the moment. It also
> has a high proportion of serious users and I would like to know what they
> think about current the range of laptops on offer from Apple.
>
> Believe it to not but I still have a working 17" laptop that is 9 years
> old. It has no battery (replaced twice) and a 'new' hard drive and maximum
> RAM. Yes, the 'rubber bands' are a little tired, it takes a while to boot
> up, doesn't support current versions of most applications (not necessarily
> a bad thing) and won't run any version of OS X past 10.6.8. (which also has
> its advantages). I can't use it for serious image editing anymore but I can
> use it for other things. including the use of 'redundant' colour
> management software.
>
> The one thing I really love about this laptop is the screen size. As far as
> I'm concerned it is at the maximum but also the optimum size for a portable
> image editing device. Any larger and you may as well go and pack a ghetto
> blaster on your shoulder for music as you will be driving a truck anyway.
> It's just too cumbersome. At 17 inches it is still portable without being
> unmanageable and portability is the prime utility and benefit of a laptop.
>
> So I found it sad as well as surprising when it was dropped from the line
> of laptops on offer some years ago. The rest of my family have 13 and 15
> inch laptops and for their purposes they're just great as they most;y
> focussed on social media and all that goes with it. However, for the
> purposes of professional photoimaging I find they're just too small,
> especially if you take one on the road and it's the only thing you have to
> work with. Even the 15" with the retina display falls short in my book. If
> you add the ever increasing resolution of cameras, even at the prosumer
> end, as well as the advent of ultra-high definition displays then I think
> there is a case for a professional standard photoimaging laptop that
> matches these capabilities and I can't see one in the current range on
> offer or even on the horizon.
>
> In short, I would like Apple to 'resurrect' the 17" laptop with a monitor
> that matches the resolution of FHD, or even UHD resolutions, and
> specifications that complement it so that photographers and other imaging
> professionals have a portable device that matches their needs and
> aspirations.
>
> All those in favour say "Aye".
>
> Anyone with something to offer on 'complementary' specifications, please
> contribute.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Stegman
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