Re: New Mac OS - little things that are most annoying
Re: New Mac OS - little things that are most annoying
- Subject: Re: New Mac OS - little things that are most annoying
- From: Mark Stegman <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 09:30:37 +1100
Jim,
It seems I did not make myself clear. The issues are definitely on the Mac
side.
I formatted the USB, plugged directly into the back of my Mac Mini (the USB
hub being now redundant). I did this several times with two different USB
flash drives: an 8gb and a 4gb.
I used FAT 32 initially [described in the new Disk utility as MS-DOS (FAT)
but confirmed as FAT 32 using Get Info] and then ExFAT.
ALL options produced unreadable Flash drives on the PC. I should add that
the problem arose initially when I delivered some photos to a printer so it
is not just my aging PC.
In ALL cases the PC told me that the drive was unreadable and that I needed
to format it, which I did. However, it would only allocate 200mb of space.
When I opened either drive on the Mac I have two visible partitions and the
data of both, which should have been destroyed in the PC formatting
process, has been preserved. I am left with two flash drives, formatted to
be compatible with Windows, which I can ONLY use on a Mac!
It would seem that they have changed something other than the interface in
this redesigned Disk Utility with respect to formatting drives for
compatibility with Windows.
I assume the issue with the USB is more than likely a driver issue.
Thanks.
Mark
On 19 October 2015 at 04:02, Jim Warthman <email@hidden> wrote:
> Edmund, maybe I missed it, but I don’t see where Apple made disks
> incompatible.
>
> What I think I read is:
>
> 1. Mark’s USB hub became “disabled” when he installed El Capitan. (It
> might be useful to know more, e.g. what brand & model hub, what
> troubleshooting steps he tried, etc.)
>
> 2. He used Disk Utility to format a USB flash drive, then the drive could
> not be ready by Windows. (It would definitely be useful to know what format
> & “scheme" he applied in Disk Utility! It would also be good to confirm
> that Mark reformatted the DEVICE, not the VOLUME.)
>
> 3. He had issues with several attempts at formatting the USB flash drive
> with Windows.
>
> The only Mac-specific issues Mark has identified are:
>
> 1. His USB hub became “disabled”.
> 2. He doesn’t like the arrangement of ports on his Mac Mini.
>
> He also had an issue formatting his USB flash drive on his Mac, but then
> again he had issues formatting the same drive using Windows, so maybe the
> drive is defective.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Jim
>
>
> > On Oct 18, 2015, at 5:53 AM, edmund ronald <email@hidden>
> wrote:
> >
> > Playing games that make disks incompatible is an old Apple tradition
> >
> > EDMUND
> > On Oct 18, 2015 05:33, "Mark Stegman" <email@hidden> wrote:
> >
> >> I know this is not about colour but it is a Mac forum...
> >>
> >> I (bravely) upgraded to the new Mac OS X (El Capitan). It immediately
> >> disabled my USB hub which meant I had to reconfigure my connected
> devices
> >> in order to connect one 8gb USB flash drive to my Mac Mini 1TB Fusion
> Drive
> >> where the sockets are inconveniently located out of sight at the back of
> >> the machine and so close together you have to pick it up to get them in.
> >> But it looks nice.
> >>
> >> I then opened the Disk Utility which I discovered had been redesigned in
> >> order to format the USB drive to give to someone with a PC. The new Disk
> >> Utility looks nice too however, after formatting the flash drive it was
> >> unreadable in any PC.
> >>
> >> I formatted the same USB drive in a PC as FAT 32. It only allowed me to
> >> create a single partition of 200mb.
> >>
> >> When I plug it back into the Mac I have two partitions: one with the
> >> original data that should have been erased when formatted in the PC, and
> >> new files that I copied from the PC for testing.
> >>
> >> I repeated the task using ExFat. Same result. I did it again using a 4gb
> >> USB flash drive. Same result: Two partitions, no data erased after
> >> formatting on the PC (Windows 7).
> >>
> >> I am glad to have discovered these idiosyncrasies before performing the
> >> same task on one of my external hard drives or relying on a my USB
> ports
> >> for a chain of printers.
> >>
> >> Before someone replies with an obvious and simple explanation resulting
> >> from something I am doing wrong I would like to get in first. I
> appreciate
> >> Apple has set the benchmark in terms of style but it is these 'little
> >> things' that take away the gloss. When will they learn that, in a world
> of
> >> practical necessity, form is nothing without function?
> >>
> >> I like the style but I need the substance.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Mark Stegman
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