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Re: Mundane color problem
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Re: Mundane color problem


  • Subject: Re: Mundane color problem
  • From: Terence Wyse <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2016 05:22:15 -0500

I'm facing something similar. I would like to design a "synthetic" CMYK space to use as a simulation profile...but lack the tools to do it....to define the primaries and secondaries and a particular TRC and then have it build this ideal CMYK simulation profile...but how?

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> On Mar 3, 2016, at 7:57 PM, Roger Breton <email@hidden> wrote:
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> I need to pursue the following line of reasoning. Here's the situation.
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> I have a superlative CMYK to CMYK RIP.
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> I have a characterization of its "full gamut" on Brand X paper. Rather well
> linearized but not rigorously spaced when you look at it in 3D.
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> My problem is, I want to "design" a CMYK gamut around  this particular CMYK
> characterization?
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> A CMYK gamut that would fit it as close as possible.
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> My plan is to use this fitted CMYK space for converting into from, say,
> Photoshop, and then, later convert from that fitted CMYK space to the
> characterized full gamut of the printer in the RIP.
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> So the conversion would go like :
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> A) say I have swell RGB imagery in some "wide" RGB spaces;
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> B) I convert to  TO that sort of intermediary space in Photoshop ;
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> B) and then, in the RIP, the conversion would go from that fitted CMYK space
> to "full gamut" of the printer.
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> Using some rudimentary tools I have at my disposal, I already undertook to
> modify what I consider a well-behaved "large gamut" CMYK space, such as
> CRPC-7.
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> Alas, the tools I use only allow modification of the CMYK colors - not the
> RGB, which would allow the better fit to the "full gamut" I'm trying to
> mimic.
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> I already compared AdobeRGB, eciRGB, and lot's of other RGB spaces as
> potential candidates, instead of insisting on an CMYK space but I find them
> all way too big.
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> Sounds like a trivial problem? There must be something I'm missing.
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> I know some RIP allow modeling the printer as an RGB device such as GMG but
> not this one, not that I know of, at least.
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> If all fails, I'll end up making an ICC profile out of this "full gamut"
> characterization to convert images straight into it.
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> Hope my life is not too complicated for you ;-)
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> / Roger
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