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Re: Affinity Photo and colorsync issue, maybe
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Re: Affinity Photo and colorsync issue, maybe


  • Subject: Re: Affinity Photo and colorsync issue, maybe
  • From: edward taffel <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:10:44 -0400

> On Mar 27, 2016, at 3:27 AM, Graeme Gill <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> edward taffel wrote:
>
>> i gather then, you claim superior precision, & this may account for ben’s superior
>> results; but, what of the ‘edge cases’ ben mentions? are these obviated by precision?
>
> I'm not sure where you gather any such thing from my general statement
> about CMM’s.

please don’t get me wrong, graeme: i view ben’s comments as very encouraging, & assumed your general statement an intimation of possible rationale for
“ArgyllCMS is so far superior to anything and everything else out there”.

> Ben will have to explain what he implies by "edge cases" - that term
> could apply to a multitude of different aspects of color management.
>
>> i have found that colorsync may fail to match a color it reported out-of-gamut, i.e.
>> transforms the coordinates, but the transformed color remains out-of-gamut.
>
> You'll have to be more precise in what you are referring to.
>
> Reported to be out of gamut using what operation ?
>
> Transformed in what direction - device to PCS, PCS to device, what ?

colorsync is negotiated [by a programmer] via

ColorSyncTransformConvert

the operation is configured in the first argument, ColorSyncTransformRef, created by

CSEXTERN ColorSyncTransformRef ColorSyncTransformCreate (CFArrayRef profileSequence, CFDictionaryRef options);
   /*
    *   profileSequence  - array of dictionaries, each one containing a profile object and the
    *                      information on the usage of the profile in the transform.
    *
    *               Required keys:
    *               ==============
    *                      kColorSyncProfile           : ColorSyncProfileRef
    *                      kColorSyncRenderingIntent   : CFStringRef defining rendering intent
    *                      kColorSyncTransformTag      : CFStringRef defining which tags to use
    *               Optional key:
    *               =============
    *                      kColorSyncBlackPointCompensation : CFBooleanRef to enable/disable BPC
    *
    *   options      - dictionary with additional public global options (e.g. preferred CMM, quality,
    *                       etc... It can also contain custom options that are CMM specific.
    *
    *   returns ColorSyncTransformRef or NULL in case of failure
    */

in my example the profile sequence was:

1)	source -> kColorSyncTransformDeviceToPCS
2)	kColorSyncTransformPCSToDevice -> destination

to get the gamut-check operation assign kColorSyncTransformGamutCheck to  kTransformTagKey in the destination transform dictionary.

>> can you enlighten us as to the handling of ‘edge cases’?
>
> Precisely what do you mean by edge cases ?

i don’t mean anything by it; ben mentioned
>>> Graeme instead has put insane amounts of time into investigating edge cases, figuring out why this-or-that is close but not perfect, and so on.

i assumed edge a synonym for boundary [perhaps falsely]. i understand boundary to mean geometry [convex hull] containing a color space: a boundary case, e.g., when a cmm attempts to transform [clip] a color into destination gamut but hits just outside or on the boundary.

best regards,
edward


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