RE: Quantum Dot Tech - cheap wide gamut but is it ready for mainstream?
RE: Quantum Dot Tech - cheap wide gamut but is it ready for mainstream?
- Subject: RE: Quantum Dot Tech - cheap wide gamut but is it ready for mainstream?
- From: Wayne Bretl <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 10:17:43 -0700
Thanks for publishing this link. It's a nice piece of work. I wish they had had another display with even broader spectra to compare to.
FYI, the topic was addressed in a 1964 paper from RCA:
"A study of the need for color controls on color TV receivers in a color TV system operating perfectly"
C. J. Hirsch ; Radio Corporation of America, Princeton, N. J.
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6312082&url=http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpls/abs_all.jsp?arnumber=6312082
Unfortunately I don't know of a freely available source.
The author concluded that there could be up to a +/- 20% imbalance in the red and green primary powers for the extreme range of observers (with normal color discrimination, of course) based on the Guild and Wright data.
The controls on a color TV receiver do not address the white balance mismatch, of course, but can be used by an individual observer to get acceptable skin tones in the context of the image. The paper really implied that a joystick white balance control would be needed. This would have been entirely impractical both for the receiver technology at the time and for teaching the public to adjust it. I have not tried to figure out if matrix calculations would be required in addition to RGB gain adjustments to give a better match for an individual observer.
Wayne Bretl
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From: colorsync-users-bounces+waynebretl=email@hidden [mailto:colorsync-users-bounces+waynebretl=email@hidden] On Behalf Of Max Derhak
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 9:45 AM
To: Roger Breton; ''colorsync-users?lists. apple. com' List'
Subject: RE: Quantum Dot Tech - cheap wide gamut but is it ready for mainstream?
Using narrow primaries to discover color matching functions for an individual is different than using them to perform color reproduction with the intent that the observed appearance by multiple observers is the same. The Guild and Wright experiments resulted in multiple individualized color matching functions that were then averaged together to establish the "standard" observer. Thus the standard observer doesn't necessarily predict the color matches of individual observers - especially when narrow primaries are used. Things are much better when broad primaries are used since the slight shifts in matching functions aren’t as critical. A study of observer variability relative to narrow primaries was performed by Asano with results that can be found at (http://www.cis.rit.edu/~yxa8513/Publications/Paper_CIC2014.pdf).
Max Derhak (PhD)
Principal Scientist
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From: Roger Breton [mailto:email@hidden]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 12:11 PM
To: Max Derhak; ''colorsync-users?lists. apple. com' List'
Subject: RE: Quantum Dot Tech - cheap wide gamut but is it ready for mainstream?
Please excuse my ignorance, Max, but what's the difference between this type of display narrow primaries and the original 1920's Guild and Wright RGB colorimetry experiments where narrow primaries were also used, as far as observer metamerism is concerned?
/ Roger
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Sent: 28 mars 2016 09:56
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Subject: RE: Quantum Dot Tech - cheap wide gamut but is it ready for mainstream?
One of my concerns with displays having really narrow primaries is that they are subject to much greater observer metamerism (among color normal observers). The problem of measuring for calibration is compounded with the problem of getting observer agreement on appearance.
Max Derhak (PhD)
Principal Scientist
Onyx Graphics Inc.
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