RE: NEC PA271Q "Native" chromaticities
RE: NEC PA271Q "Native" chromaticities
- Subject: RE: NEC PA271Q "Native" chromaticities
- From: Roger Breton via colorsync-users <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 14:41:06 -0500
I have to say, Andrew, that my experience mostly revolves around taking
“existing” RGB images, where all the “damages” is already done, for editing and
retouching, and then converting to CMYK, to make proofs, have them approved and
out the press, the next day. That’s one workflow. Images are coming to me
either tagged with AdobeRGB, sRGB or untagged. Many times, when the image is
tagged with AdobeRGB, I am able to leave the profile as is, the image, judging
by its rendition on the screen, doesn’t need any further work. But many times,
assigning sRGB makes the tones appear more “natural”, all of a sudden? This is
using a NEC PA301W calibrated monitor, “visually tweaked to perfectly good SWOP
and GRACoL proofs”, outputted on non-fluorescent (Epson Standard Proofing 240)
paper through ORIS ColorTuner. For a large number of folks, especially those
who don’t shoot RAW, and chose sRGB in their camera, by the time they view
their images on screen, all the compromises and clipping has occurred. But I
realize, for the most demanding crowd, there’s no such thing as
one-gamut-fits-all. Believe it or not, most of my publishing clients, even in
2019, don’t have a clue about color management, they don’t see the difference
between all of the popular RGB color spaces. I won’t debate the virtues of
ProPhotoRGB and I remember sitting in a presentation at Seybold, by Kevin
Spaulding, then at Kodak, about how ProPhotoRGB came to be and everything about
it made perfectly good sense. I think I still have one of the original white
paper, somewhere on my computer. Maybe I’m long overdue for a fresh, new
visit….
I’m sorry I opened this Pandora box.
/ Roger
From: Andrew Rodney <email@hidden>
Sent: December 3, 2019 10:53 AM
To: <email@hidden> <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: NEC PA271Q "Native" chromaticities
For printing on devices who's color gamut far exceed the quite limited color
gamut of magazine and sheetfed OK but just awful for capture or conversion from
raw, as shown so well here:
https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/59559609
Of course I don't know that ANY printer can print all of the sRGB color gamut.
Andrew Rodney
http://www.digitaldog.net/
On Dec 3, 2019, at 7:30 AM, Roger Breton via colorsync-users
<email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden> >
wrote:
I'd be interested in anecdotes about how the limits of sRGB
affect color printing from an artistic perspective.
None, whatsoever, from the point of view of magazine and sheetfed printing. But
that's my experience -- everyone mileage is bound to vary. Certainly speaking
for myself, here, and it's a public forum, last I know, everyone's experiences
and points of view were welcome 😊
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