RE: 1 billion colors
RE: 1 billion colors
- Subject: RE: 1 billion colors
- From: Roger Breton via colorsync-users <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 08:46:27 -0500
Wire,
You wrote :
> However an RGB / YUV display that processes 1 billion colors on its
interface may reasonably be
> expected to produce 1 billion quantifiably different stimuli on its face
That's the whole point of the thread, isn't it?
I remain skeptical.
Stick with 16.7 million colors for a moment : can you point to any article
that ever documented this?
/ Roger
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Subject: Re: 1 billion colors
This convo is on the edge of nonsense.
OMG Do some color numbers in some color space produce indistinguishable
stimulus? Consider a color-blind viewer. Or close your eyes.
The point of the extra bits in context could not be more simple: 8 bpc color
rendering can have problems with quantization noise. As dynamic range is
expanding in newer gear pertaining to UHD TV HDR, this limit is encroached.
A couple more bits per channel were added to standard display data formats.
Just like high bpc support was added to Photoshop.
Marketeers looked at old-school Windows / Mac color control panel "hundreds,
thousands, true (millions)" which always just counted the number of unique
numerical combinations and disregarded important details like indexed color
(the original LUT) and kept rolling with it. So what?
To know anything about the CIE tristimulus model, is to know it's about a
math that connects a physics of light to an idealized observer using
statistical sampling of perceptible difference across a human population.
The subjectivity of the qualia is subsumed by the model. It works because
our visual systems work a lot alike, just like most of us have arms and legs
with fingers and toes, but not wings.
To note that Pro Photo RGB has some values that don't lie within the CIE
spectrum locus is fine. In integer Lab lots of values don't fall into the
spectrum locus.
However an RGB / YUV display that processes 1 billion colors on its
interface may reasonably be expected to produce 1 billion quantifiably
different stimuli on its face that lie within its CIE gamut volume, because
of the way the data format works. We all know (I hope) that how many of
these are needed for any given application is a subjective matter. If you
only present grayscale images, maybe only 0.00001% of them aren needed. If
you prefer sepia, maybe more, etc.
The marketing claim is fair: there are applications where the full range of
input values are known to be useful and applicable.
Don't get lost in the noodling over semantics of the term color. If you want
to freak out about it, consider the word "time" and linguistic tense.
Then observe a Zen moment of silent contemplation.
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