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  • Subject: Re: Impossible to take you seriously
  • From: Wire ~ via colorsync-users <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 18:09:10 -0800

I've been posted my measurements in the share folder I linked many times
before, including Dells cert and my DCal measurements. I updated the
factory Adobe RGB preset verification with an large testchart report, it
passes conformance with flying colors. RMS ave dE at 1.0 max at 2. Agrees
with Dell's claims and looks dead on. I'll repost the share link in a few,
I'm having some dinner :) Ya big galoot!

I'm trying to do a verify pass on Display P3 but DCal is barfing and I
submitted a bug report

On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 18:00 Andrew Rodney <email@hidden> wrote:

>
> On Jan 7, 2020, at 6:54 PM, Wire ~ via colorsync-users <
> email@hidden> wrote:
>
> In order to avoid a showdown I concede that the NEC is a 10% better display
>
>
> More assumptions, more stat's produced without any testing it seems. So
> no, you don't have an NEC SpectraView nor have you measured anything; do
> you even own a Spectrophotometer? Hard to take you seriously
>
> Actually impossible to take you seriously if we consider the following:
>
> Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?), 3
> answers, two for anyone with critical thinking should accept, one that's an
> illustration of digging holes based on assumptions, misunderstanding and
> denial of facts, like making up percentages of which display is better:
>
> 1. Mark D. Fairchild
> Founding Head, Integrated Sciences Academy
> Professor & Director, Program of Color Science/Munsell Color Science
> Laboratory
> Rochester Institute of Technology
> B.S./M.S., Imaging Science (née Photographic Science & Instrumentation),
> RIT, 1986
> M.A./Ph.D., Vision Science (Human Sensation & Perception), UR, 1990
> Publications (197)
>
> https://www.researchgate.net/scientific-contributions/8289914_Mark_D_Fairchild
>
> "This one is easy for me … cameras absolutely do not have gamuts.
> So I fall strongly, and unequivocally, on the side that says cameras do
> not have color gamuts. (FWIW, this isn’t even a discussion among the
> faculty in our program, we all agree on this.)"
>
> 2. Parker Plaisted
> Parker has a B.S. degree in Physics-engineering from Washington and Lee
> University, an M.S. degree in Imaging Science from the Rochester Institute
> of Technology (RIT), and an M.B.A. degree with concentrations in marketing
> and business strategy from Vanderbilt University. While at RIT, Parker
> studied color science in the Munsell Color Science Laboratory under
> professors Mark D. Fairchild and Roy S. Berns.
>
> "A Digital Camera Does Not Have A Color Gamut"
>
> http://www.color-image.com/2012/08/a-digital-camera-does-not-have-a-color-gamut/
>
> 3. Someone calling himself or herself Wire, alias for some newbie posting
> on the ColorSync List:
> "The point about there "cameras not having gamut" is another priestly
> proclamation."
>
> Not difficult for me, hopefully others to come to a conclusion which text
> to take seriously and which is utter silliness.
>
> Do you really need to keep digging that hole any deeper?
>
> Andrew Rodney
> http://www.digitaldog.net/
>
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