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Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)
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Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)


  • Subject: Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)
  • From: Henry Davis via colorsync-users <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 17:10:00 -0500

If the input sensitivity is different for various camera sensors it makes sense to me if they are compared to each other as "gamuts". Surely manufacturers describe their sensor's capability - what do they call it? Maybe range, or dynamic range? But drill one step deeper into the word "range" and you will find numbers. If all sensors are sensitive beyond visible light then I can understand that there is no color gamut for sensors because all sensors would have the same color gamut - that is, all colors. Entirety(all color) isn't limited, and calling it a "gamut" suggests some sort of limits. If that's the case then "gamut" would not be the best word to describe it.

As for numbers . . .

Within the spectrum there is a portion that represents colors of visible light. The wavelengths of visible colored light start and stop at specific places(numbers). Are these numbers color, no they are numbers. Regardless, to my way of thinking that is the "gamut" of visible light within the entire spectrum. I'm still fussing with myself over that word and its proper use. Within the entire spectrum visible light has limits. Unlike the sensor description above, "gamut" would seem like a good word to describe it because color is limited within the entire spectrum.

Saying that numbers aren't in fact colors seems to contradict the numeric gamut plot of an output device. An output device's gamut is represented by numbers. Of course, numbers are not colors - but they represent colors in both input and output.

Gamut, limits, range - I think any of these words could be used to describe a sensor's capability and anyone would grasp the subject of the conversation. Of course, somebody might object to either of these words being used - depending on their "sensitivity".

Henry Davis

On Jan 8, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Wayne Bretl via colorsync-users wrote:
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I would add the further note that sometimes the sensor gamut is the limiting factor on the final color output, and sometimes the color space (e.g. sRGB)
is the limiting factor.

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