Re: Philosophy of Progress (was Re: Gamma calibration)
Re: Philosophy of Progress (was Re: Gamma calibration)
- Subject: Re: Philosophy of Progress (was Re: Gamma calibration)
- From: Scott Martin via colorsync-users <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2020 18:30:23 +0000
Dude, Wire, checkout my other site: www.martinphoto.com/road-verse/
and… you said "colorz"
Scott Martin
www.on-sight.com
Precise color science for printmaking professionals
> On Jan 12, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Wire ~ via colorsync-users
> <email@hidden> wrote:
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> On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 01:44 Scott Martin via colorsync-users <
> email@hidden> wrote:
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>>> On Jan 12, 2020, at 3:13 AM, Roger Breton via colorsync-users <
>> email@hidden> wrote:
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>>> Judging by the shape of the graph in the shadows, I am tempted to
>> concluded
>>> that there is "poor separation of tones"?
>>
>> [...]
>
> PS: if you want to see more examples and dialog about how color gamut
>> comparisons can yield false conclusions, check out the "Polarized M3
>> Observations” section of my i1Pro3+ review.
>> www.on-sight.com/xrite-i1pro3-review/ — Scott Martin
>
>
> Hi Scott, read your writeup and the synopsis of the products features made
> overall sense, but I missed the justification per false conclusions: I saw
> the comparison of measurement plots but didn't follow how you think the
> changes revealed in the plots will or won't influence final print quality?
>
> It makes sense to me that taking into account fine points of distinction
> between the way the instrument sees and eyes see will affect the plots.
> This is elementary to the process.
>
> And it certainly makes sense that normalizing variables of perception
> results in more repeatable evaluations across scenarios... The review begs
> this question.
>
> What I'm wondering is are the optical qualities of texture and florescence
> part of the visual experience or not? How do you decide to include or omit
> these effects when evaluating the total system performance? And why do you
> draw the line here or there?
>
> Digression to context: Long ago I noticed that product reviews can be
> oblivious to progress. This first occurred to me reading car reviews that
> one year a magazine would report a model as being strong then in a
> subsequent year the same magazine would denigrate the same model as
> wanting, sometimes for the exact parameter that was before lauded. What the
> rags avoided was contextualizing and reconciling how or why the strength
> became a weakness, the advantage a liability. I realized the car business
> doesn't thrive on doing transportation well, in fact it avoids considering
> actual transportation metrics. It thrives on making you want something to
> replace this year what it told you to want last year. Now that we are well
> into the Anthropocene, this mentality of progress is seen to have
> disastrous geopolitical and environmental characteristics. But what can we
> do?! How could we know?! I love driving!
>
> The mentality of progress as being nothing more than incremental subjective
> advances that ignore legacies is now pervasive across industries, brought
> on hard by the personal computer industry, which sees fit to destroy the
> past in order to secure us into a future of relief from the horrendous
> defects of their previous products. Meanwhile deep fakes and fear that
> further progress will be even worse. If computer guys and technologists are
> so smart, why aren't San Francisco bay area and Seattle two of the finest
> metropolises in the world? Instead they are home to great problems of
> poverty and displacement, environmental distress in many forms. Why did
> Detroit collapse?!
>
> Getting back to this Xrite review: I notice that after 20 years of advances
> in ICC color measurement technology, the industry is still announcing—and
> reviewers enthusiastically reporting—that the promise of color management
> is about to been realized, and per your review, progress means you should
> want not only the old thing you may already have and the new thing that you
> should get to replace it, but both! In a couple years a new Xrite product
> will be out and you should want that too. With generous trade up
> allowances. Your transmissive scenario gains suggest that until now the
> world has still be struggling with poor white balance?! I suddenly
> understood the other poster's comment that wondered if maybe Xrite had
> already solved the transmissive media challenge with EZ color decades ago
> but this had not been noticed or was forgotten.
>
> But moreover, it's the repeatability of the new visual medium destroying
> the beauty of media? As the devices become perfected, they are ever more
> literal windows. The most perfect the medium is at replication, the most
> substanceless it becomes; its just a portal. What's on the other side? Do
> the replication well enough and we will become lost in house of mirrors.
>
> I was thinking about how such much of the current philosophical
> conversation is rehashing old stories about tech from eatlier dayz and how
> intellectual property and the web isn't helping us remember very well,
> because actually knowing is not economically energetic.
>
> Coming back around:
>
> So question for this Xrite product. It no doubt is the finest of its kind,
> but what about it leaves you wanting something that will be available in
> the next rev? IOW imagine your review saying 'this product gets some things
> right but these are gonna be meh compared to [insert future features]'.
> What will these future features be and might we just wait?
>
> Of course you can't have tomorrows features without todays churn! Put
> another way, our economy is predicated on not knowing what's going on. This
> is paradoxically weird considering everything we consume offers itself
> under a presupposition that the people who offer it know exactly what's
> going on.
>
> The motto of the World Bank is "Working for a poverty free world"
>
> Why do I get the sense this motto is their promise the job is never gonna
> get done...
>
> I was rewatching James Cameron's Avatar last nite w my teenage kids and
> marveling at the (almost obscene) colorz presented on a well aligned Sony
> projector.
>
> /wire
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