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Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)
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Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)


  • Subject: Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?)
  • From: Andrew Rodney via colorsync-users <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 19:47:48 -0700

On Jan 13, 2020, at 7:14 PM, Henry Davis via colorsync-users
<email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Is not a gamut a limit?

The discussion here is color gamut. Color gamut defines a range of colors. Even
more specifically (not that it should be necessary after so many days of this)
but one more example:

https://color.viewsonic.com/explore/content/Color-gamut_6.html

“The color gamut describes a range of color within the spectrum of colors that
are identifiable by the human eye (visible color spectrum)“.

>  Restricting gamut to certain coordinte systems doesn’t make it any less a
> limit.  Restricting ‘gamut’ to a jargon definition doesn’t erradicate ‘gamut’
> as an applicable term for describing color bounds or capabilities.

Color gamut has a limit based on what is and isn’t color.

Absolutely not joking and fact: I had a dog who’s name was Gamut. He had
absolutely nothing to do with color gamut.

> Gamut is a broader term than it has been reduced to by some in this thread.

We don’t need a broader term for color gamut, just color gamut and it’s well
established and excepted (by most) definition. There’s yet another above.

> Sorry if this doesn’t fit the model for some color scientists but that’s the
> way it goes.

Many color scientists have stated the facts about color gamut and the lack
thereof from input devices like digital cameras.

>  If a group wants to own language then they’re bound to run into ignorant
> people like me.  It’s the price you pay for ownership.

I don’t speak for the group or anyone but myself but you'll hear some posters
speak for others. I am very clear on my understanding on color gamut because my
understanding comes from a pretty significant number of color scientists and
experts and all agree; I’ve copied and pasted their text which, much of which
was paramount in my understanding of color gamut. Unlike just a few here,
disagreeing with so many esteemed and well respected experts on color is way
over my pay grade.

I absolutely agree with Graeme: That topic has been cleared up over and over
again.

Andrew Rodney
http://www.digitaldog.net/ <http://www.digitaldog.net/>


> Henry Davis
>
>
>> On Jan 13, 2020, at 8:54 PM, Graeme Gill via colorsync-users
>> <email@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Henry Davis via colorsync-users wrote:
>>
>>> The threads I’ve been reading here have insisted that sensors do not have
>>> gamuts.  No
>>> one has yet to clear up this contradiction.
>>
>> That topic has been cleared up over and over again. I'm not sure that
>> repeating the information will improve comprehension, but here's another
>> short summary:
>>
>> If by "gamut" you mean a well defined volume of tri-stimulus space, then
>> no, input devices don't have gamuts. This is due to the nature of
>> the many-to-one spectral to tri-stimulus transform that they perform
>> allowing for colors that can be be accurately captured if having
>> one spectra, but not being accurately captured if they have another.
>>
>> If by "gamut" you mean that they have limits, then yes, input
>> devices have limits. Just not of the sort that can be defined by
>> a volume of tri-stimulus space.
>>
>> That's it. You can stop wondering if sensors have gamuts.
>>
>> Graeme Gill.
>
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References: 
 >Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?) (From: Rich Wagner via colorsync-users <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?) (From: Henry Davis via colorsync-users <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?) (From: Graeme Gill via colorsync-users <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Humans (and cameras and scanners) do not have a color gamut (?) (From: Henry Davis via colorsync-users <email@hidden>)

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