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Re: Does anyone get an AudioDevice that has both input and output channels?
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Re: Does anyone get an AudioDevice that has both input and output channels?


  • Subject: Re: Does anyone get an AudioDevice that has both input and output channels?
  • From: Lubor Prikryl <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 23:55:39 +0200

Thanks, it was very helpful discussion. I am developing a host app for VST plugins on X, which is to be used in real time, I will test your 3ms...

My questions:

Does Apple provide a generic audio driver for FireWire/ OS X?
Will you give us an example of some audioUnits and their connection to the graph?

Thanks

Lubor Prikryl, DSound,
email@hidden


On Thursday, July 19, 2001, at 10:05 PM, Jeff Moore wrote:

on 7/18/01 9:06 PM, James McCartney <email@hidden> wrote:

At a cost of how much additional CPU overhead compared to 128 or 256 ?

My profiling numbers (which anyone can replicate on their own systems)
indicate that there is very little extra overhead involved with smaller
buffers beyond the obvious things like more function calls per second and
the consequences that go with it. Here's why:

- Smaller buffers do _not_ mean more hardware interrupts per second on this
system. The number of hardware interrupts per second is _constant_ no matter
what the user land apps do with their buffers.

- The HAL's IO thread is woken by a timer that is otherwise always running
on the system, so there is almost no extra overhead for waking it more often
with smaller buffers.

- Further, the HAL's IO thread's scheduling latency is very small because it
is among the highest priority threads in the system. The scheduling latency
will vary with the load on the system (outside of the IO thread) and the
number of processors.

- The overhead in the HAL for running it's duty cycle and managing the
IOProcs is constant and does not vary with the buffer size. It is also very
small.

- The CPU usage of the driver's mix and clip operations vary directly with
the buffer size and the number of active IOProcs, but should remain constant
in terms of relative percentage of the time used out of the duty cycle.
Plus, smaller buffers mean that more of them can fit in the level 2 cache
and improve the dsp performance modestly.

So, while you _will_ get a modest increase in CPU utilization and the fixed
overhead _will_ eat more and more of the total duty cycle as your buffers
get smaller, the performance envelope you will see is a lot different than
interrupt driven, double-buffered architectures in other systems.

Hope this helps clarify things a little.

--

Jeff Moore
Core Audio
Apple
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