RE: [Semi-OT] 192kHz/96kHz soundcard recommendations ?
RE: [Semi-OT] 192kHz/96kHz soundcard recommendations ?
- Subject: RE: [Semi-OT] 192kHz/96kHz soundcard recommendations ?
- From: "Kevin Vanwulpen" <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 14:48:25 -0800
Yes it is feasible to build such a box.
I happen to be working on our Firewire audio solution right now (which
currently support multichannel up to 24bit/192KHz) but there is a spec for
DSD via 1394. Just like PCM this can be copy-protected but it doesn't have
to be. In a studio environment for example audio isn't transmitted between
devices with copy protection, for obvious reasons.
So briefly put I would not be very surprised if someone builds such a box. I
obviously can't comment whether we will do so or not.
I can't speak for Apple obviously but my assumption is that it's the same
for them as for hardware vendors, if there is enough demand it will happen.
My personal opinion (so not a company-opinion, for clarity) is that demand
is very small for SACD. I wouldn't be surprised if DVD-A demand is bigger
but even there likely most end-consumers couldn't care less and are happy
with formats which are even inferior to regular CD's such as mp3 for
example.
But indeed as John points out there are people who care. One of the things I
personally think will eventually be commonplace is surround. In the first
place for movies and I also notice, strange but true, that the kids are
asking for it. The reason for that is most gaming consoles (XBox,
PlaystationII,...) have surround sound, so the kids ask for a surround
system to hear the action all around them.
So slowly surround is creeping into people's home systems. I hope as well at
some point a new interest for quality (maybe pushed a bit by added
experiences such as surround) will come back. On the other hand I am not
sure if it will obviously.
I wouldn't declare SACD as being dead to soon. One argument for that is that
especially Sony has proven in the past to be able and willing to hold it's
breath for a very long time. MiniDisc is still around as an example of that.
On the other hand SACD is such a hard format to work with in the sense that
no regular DSP can be applied to it that it would require totally new tools
to do something with it, so from a convenience point of view PCM is much
easier to work with, for sure right now.
Cheers, Kevin
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mailto:email@hidden]On Behalf Of Roman Thilenius
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 11:47 PM
To: john
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Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] 192kHz/96kHz soundcard recommendations ?
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Hi Kevin,
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Delayed response on my part, thanks for your info about SACD copy
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protection.
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Though I'd like to see DSD support in CoreAudio sometime, if that's a
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possibility. Of course it doesn't do much good without hardware support
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for it, but I think it'd be ideal to have a simple DSD audio firewire
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device with stereo (or multichannel) XLR inputs with native DSD support
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in CoreAudio.
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-- John
that would be really interesting if that would work to have DSD format
streams on PC or Mac OS playing (and documents on the HD... !), it is hard
to imagine from what i know about it.
do you really see a market for this format ? sony sells SACDs since years
and they only offer a few thousand titles until today. their SACD burner
costs USD 6000, mainly to prevent piracy but thats also why the avarage
consumer doesnt buy players - because they dont record :)
SACD is the next big f*ckup of the music distributors, after DAT and DMC.
no wait, thats already napsters .wma ...
/r
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