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Re: MIDI "Controller" Support (was: Rationale for ignoring common
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Re: MIDI "Controller" Support (was: Rationale for ignoring common


  • Subject: Re: MIDI "Controller" Support (was: Rationale for ignoring common
  • From: Glenn Olander <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:00:17 -0700

Hardwiring cc7 to a synth's volume would help Doug Wyatt :-),
but it wouldn't be much help to many other users, especially
if they use an expression pedal instead of a volume pedal or have
an array of midi cc's on their keyboard that they would like
to use for that purpose.

As I mentioned before, the answer for the 21st century is to
implement midi learn. Enough synths offer it today that you're at
a decided disadvantage if you don't.

It also makes midi implementation charts unnecesary. Okay, so the
filter cutoff on ModelE is CC71. Now what? I don't have a knob
assigned to 71. I don't want to map controllers in the host or my
controller because a moment later I'll be working with a
different synth. If instead you're working with a synth which
has implemented midi learn, just choose filter cutoff from the
GUI, twirl a knob on your controller, and you're ready to go. There's
a good reason why midi implementation charts are virtually extinct.
Let's leave it that way :-).

- Glenn


Doug Wyatt wrote:
On Sunday, Jul 13, 2003, at 00:38 US/Pacific, Urs Heckmann wrote:

I've often been asked why my stuff does not support CC7 (Volume). I replied "uhm, please, try in Logic" and they knew why. (Because the host already uses it for channel volume)


Ouch, this is my pet peeve! ;-)

I use my volume pedal extensively. I want it to affect the synth's output level, not the Logic channel strip, so that if I have an effect (say a reverb) following the synth, I'm not killing the reverb as I fade out a sustained sound. But there are and will be other hosts, and the last time I tried I did manage to make an environment to route CC7 to a synth. Please, implement it. For Logic users, you could also connect volume to a different control source (I believe Expression is sometimes used for this purpose, foot controller might not be a bad choice either if you don't want to go through making a UI to make it user-assignable)

Doug
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