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Re: Multitimbral Music Devices - Question and Proposal
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Re: Multitimbral Music Devices - Question and Proposal


  • Subject: Re: Multitimbral Music Devices - Question and Proposal
  • From: Bill Stewart <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 17:16:28 -0700

I guess I have to say something :)

On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 09:51 AM, Urs Heckmann wrote:

Am Dienstag, 15.07.03, um 18:15 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Frank Hoffmann:


On Dienstag, Juli 15, 2003, at 04:47 Uhr, Urs Heckmann wrote:


Am Dienstag, 15.07.03, um 16:26 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Frank Hoffmann:

Urs, sorry to insist, but multitimbral Audio Units just add another layer of unneeded conceptional overhead. There is no need for that and you can see how much confusion it creates with VST. And there is still no clear concept how to handle the scenario. Neither on the host nor on the client side. They just shouldn't. The mistake was to allow multitimbral plugin in the first place.

The concept of multitimbral comes from hardware synthesizer, where it made sense for cost reasons. But for the virtual studio there is simply a lack of need for something like this. Hence somebody wants to simulate a virtual instrument with say a drum machine and a synthesis part, why shouldn't he create one Audio Unit for the drum machine and one for the synthesis part? There is no disadvantage, but it buys you a lot more flexibility. Of course the virtual counterfeit wouldn't look exactly like the original anymore. But this point is mood, you also can't simulate the feeling of actually touching the keys this > way.

I agree.

But being a tech-punk, I like options.
Yes, I tend to think in the same direction. But we should focus on User experience. And this is where the pain starts with it. Too many options can sometimes be a bigger problem, than a clear and simple rule.

Haha, yes. But the opposite is true as well. Too little options lead to hassle (see multitimbral softsynths today).

People come up with unusual solutions. In this case, I bet it's hard to prevent some people from doing so. Offering consistency would be better. Otherwise one should say "No. Preset/Parameter based Music Devices must not be multitimbral". Bill?

Yes - that is our strong inclination...

The DLS Synth is multi-timbral, it does respond to program and bank selects - but this is mainly because its DATA format (whether SoundFont or DSL banks) have these "locations" hard wired into the banks themselves.

Now - the preset state of the DLS synth includes the sound bank that it is using.... It *doesn't* include which parts/MIDI Channels are currently using which instruments - but that is easily re-established by sending the appropriate prog change/bank select messages...

As for the rest... hmmm.. still digesting the comments. I can see both sides to this actually.

Bill

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