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Re: Hardware control surfaces (was Re: Private Parameters)
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Re: Hardware control surfaces (was Re: Private Parameters)


  • Subject: Re: Hardware control surfaces (was Re: Private Parameters)
  • From: Jim Wintermyre <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 03:09:16 -0700

Hardware control surfaces are another reason that Urs' idea (it was
you, right Urs?) for parameter groups is important to consider.

On a control surface, you have only a very limited number of controls
that you can edit at once (a "page" of controls). It is quite
important--if only for user experience--that related controls be
grouped together, so you don't have to flip back and forth between
pages all the time.

The only plugin API that I know of that handles this is RTAS.
Developers explicitly map parameters to hardware knobs and define what
parameters appear on what pages. You can even provide a page table for
a specific piece of hardware, to provide the absolute best mapping
possible. Very, very nice. (There are definitely reasons that people
stick with ProTools.)

Actually, VST does have a routine that allows you to specify the ordering of parameters for "display" purposes (where "display" could be either a generic UI, or external hardware controller). That routine is called getParameterProperties(). It allows you to specify a number of other useful things which would be useful for a hardware controller to know, such as a "shortened" param name, whether a param is a switch/discrete/continuous, display "categories" (which would be like the related control groups you mention above) etc. Unfortunately most hosts don't support this routine, or only partially support it. One host which does support it in part is Logic, and it is very helpful for making Logic Control work well with with VST plugs.

I'm new to AU, so I don't know this, but I would assume that AU has some similar functionality? If not, it's definitely something to think about adding.

Jim
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