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Re: [OT] Host Developers! - SheetWindows
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Re: [OT] Host Developers! - SheetWindows


  • Subject: Re: [OT] Host Developers! - SheetWindows
  • From: Urs Heckmann <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 01:19:13 +0200

Am Montag, 29.09.03, um 19:50 Uhr (Europe/Berlin) schrieb Marc Poirier:

The only real problem that I see with the idea is sheets are attached to a
window, and the window that the AUView is contained within is not specific
to the AUView. Take for example AudioUnitHosting, where the entire
application interface, and also the current AUView, are all in one window.
If you tried out your sheet-producing AU in there, I'm sure you'd see what
I'm talking about. The result is weird and inappropriate because the
sheet is attached to the app's window in a way that doesn't seem attached
to the plugin view. If you look at the Apple Human Interface Guidelines,
you'll also see that your idea is a misuse of sheets, basically because of
what I'm talking about.

Marc

Yes, but to my understanding of the Mac World, AUHosting isn't the best example of User Interface design anyway. It ties together stuff that doesn't really belong together. It doesn't have the purpose to look & feel good. Try any fancy custom user interface in AUHosting. Ugly. Windows like AUHosting's are not common in our biz. If AUHosting is the only host that screws it up, I don't care, nobody uses it except developers. (And I still believe it does not look too bad...)

Despite Logic (like Spark) having a Toolbar, Sheets still look very cool (or funky, if you prefer that term). And I have a certain use for that, it's not just "look what I can do".

I'm really not interested in how hosts clutter the view with their stuff (If it does not belong to the plugin they may better keep out!). I want to know if there are any technical reasons not to use Sheets. That's all. Otherwise I'll open an OverlayWindow :-b - This is just more expensive, because I have to block some events...

Reg. Apple Human Interface Guidelines, sorry, I already provide "strange" custom controls (and it's getting weirder every day). In fact, my Sheets come closer to them than most of my other controls, I bet.

;) Urs
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