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Re: Stuck Notes
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Re: Stuck Notes


  • Subject: Re: Stuck Notes
  • From: "James Chandler Jr" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 14:10:46 -0500

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Lazzaro" <email@hidden>
To: <email@hidden>
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: Stuck Notes


> > "James Chandler Jr" <email@hidden> writes:
> > Anyway, it could happen that a user is intentionally sending
> > overlapped notes into your program.
>
> Yes. However, such a source still has a responsibility
> to pair note initiations and terminations. From page
> A-4 of the MIDI 1.0 spec (version 96.1):
>
> "The transmitter, however, must send a corresponding
> Note Off message for every Note On message sent.".
>
> This quote is from a section that legitimizes sending multiple
> NoteOn's with non-zero velocity on a channel for a given
> note number without an intervening NoteOff or zero-velocity
> NoteOn.
>
> So, hardware that isn't pairing non-zero-velocity NoteOn's
> with NoteOffs or zero-velocity NoteOffs is out of spec.
> Note the last sentence is true even if All Notes Off or All
> Sounds Off Control Change commands are in the stream --
> those commands are advisory, and do not relieve transmitters
> from correct pairing.

Hi John

I agree that keyboard's reported behavior is out-of-spec.

If such defective keyboards are big sellers, it might be user-friendly to supply
an optional input filter.

Was just suggesting that the input filter should be user-optional. Users with
non-defective hardware might not want the filtering.

If one filters non-realtime after recording a track, it is easy to fix duplicate
note errors, without accidentally killing intentional overlapped notes. One has
the luxury of scanning the entire track for mis-matched on-off pairs.

With realtime input, it is not immediately obvious how one could filter
defective-keyboard duplicate note-ons, without also killing the user's
intentional overlapped notes.

If you receive two identical note-on's in realtime, before receiving a note-off,
how can your software make an 'instant' decision whether this is a hardware
error versus intentional user input?

JCJR
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