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Re: Logic7.1 picks the wrong plugin


  • Subject: Re: Logic7.1 picks the wrong plugin
  • From: William Stewart <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 14:38:58 -0700

No. He is already using a unique ID - the unique ID are the three identifiers of the component, its type, subtype, and manu. If other hosts have problems here then they should fix their implementation here as well.

An offline AU and a converter AU can vector down to the same code, where some minor differences are used for the different AU types, but otherwise the code is identical. These two AU types represent distinct usage scenarios (one is where the AU is being used in some real-time context, the other to process a file). The presets between these two AUs can be interchangeable for example. Apple ships two AUs on your system that behave in exactly this manner: AUTimePitch and AUVarispeed - the only distinction between the two is the au's type (auol vs aufc)

Of course the situation Os describes is similar, and quite legitimate.

In both of these situations I would see this dual-identity as a feature of the AU specification (especially the sharing of presets) - there was a post I made about 2 months ago to change the preset validation mechanism in AUBase to ignore the component type for this very reason.

Bill

On 12/07/2005, at 1:04 PM, Jeremy Sagan wrote:

I think perhaps other hosts may also exhibit this problem. Your best bet is to use a unique ID for the different plug-ins.

Jeremy

On Jul 12, 2005, at 2:20 PM, Stefan Gretscher wrote:


Am 10.07.2005 um 20:01 schrieb Os:

apologies if this isn't the place for this, but I've just found a reasonably serious AU hosting bug in Logic 7.1.

For discussing any issues related to Logics AU hosting, please use this email address:
email@hidden
It's a group mailing address that is broadcast to the appropriate guys in the Logic engineering, the Logic QA and the CoreAudio team.
In case of bugs in Logic, please feel free to additionally use your ADC account to file a bug report.



I have two AUs in one bundle, with similar but not identical signatures:

Oss-TiBook:~ os$ auval -a | grep XFls
aumf XFls ExSl  -  Expert Sleepers: Crossfade Loop Synth Effect
aumu XFls ExSl  -  Expert Sleepers: Crossfade Loop Synth

If I create a Logic song using the synth (aumu), save and reload it, Logic instantiates the effect (aumf).

We checked this today and can confirm the bug, it must have been around ever since Logic supports AUs...
Sure we'll fix it, but unfortunately it seems like this will break backwards compatibility of songs.


Best,
Stefan



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Emagic GmbH, Hamburg, Germany
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