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Re: SPDIF encoded output on G5
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Re: SPDIF encoded output on G5


  • Subject: Re: SPDIF encoded output on G5
  • From: Jeff Moore <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:58:59 -0800


On Nov 30, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Derk-Jan Hartman wrote:

There i am again.
I fixed an issue VLC had with hogging the device, but i'm still not getting any digital audio out of the thing.
I tried setting Mixable to no, but that apparently is being done automatically, and i'm not allowed to set it (HALlab says that as well).


The one real difference I could see was the following in the ASBDs

G5
[48000][cac3][94][6144][1536][0][2][16]

Sonica
[48000][cac3][76][6144][1536][0][2][16]

So that is a diff in the formatflags, specifically the IsBigEndian flag and the isPackedHigh flag.
As far as I can tell however that shouldn't matter correct?

Incorrect. You need to byte-swap as dictated by the flags.

Natively, an AC-3 bitstream has the same endian properties as MPEG data streams. That is, it's big endian. When you take the native stream and hack it up to be put on a SPDIF cable (which is what kAudioFormat60958AC3 signifies), you are basically making the AC-3 packet behave like 16 bit, stereo, signed integer data (which is why the standard format flags apply to the ASBD).

So, if the ASBD sets kAudioFormatFlagIsBigEndian, you don't need to byte-swap. If kAudioFormatFlagIsBigEndian is clear, you have to byte- swap the data as if it was 16 bit samples.

In IOProc I tried switching between different timestamps etc etc. but it didn't seem to matter. The audio is being put in the buffers, it simply seems like my receiver can't make heads or tails from it anymore, yet DVD Player works just fine.

If you have the endian-ness of the data wrong, I imagine the decoder doesn't know what to do with the data. It'll just look like regular 16 bit, stereo, signed integer data to it (which sounds like a pulse train).


In HALLab I tried comparing the settings of DVD Player with the settings when VLC is running, and there is simply no difference.

I was looking at the ioproc and did see
[00000294] coreaudio audio output debug: AudioDevice: 257, OutputBufferlist.#Buffers: 1,
[00000294] coreaudio audio output debug: OutputBufferlist.#channels: 2: OutputBufferlist.datasize: 6144


The #channels, could that be an issue perhaps? Does it have any relevance in the context of SPDIF ?
Speaking of channels. another idea I was having is that for digital modes, I set all the options on the "masterchannel" of the device/ stream. However I don't think that could be an issue.

kAudioFormat60958AC3 specifically defines itself to act like 16 bit, stereo, signed integer data. So you will always see the number of channels be 2.



The G5 is the only digital output that VLCs Digital audio output doesn't seem to work with, and I can't seem to figure out why. Is there anyone who has been able to use this feature successfully in his application?

Aside from the DVD Player? It is a plain ordinary HAL client. All the advice I've given you is drawn directly from my experience with helping with the DVD Player.


At any rate, it sounds like you aren't obeying the semantics of the format with respect to endian-ness.


--

Jeff Moore
Core Audio
Apple


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