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Re: When is an event not an event?
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Re: When is an event not an event?


  • Subject: Re: When is an event not an event?
  • From: William Stewart <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:45:51 -0700


On 04/09/2007, at 1:59 PM, Bjorn Roche wrote:

Hey all,

I've been testing my app for working with Audio Unit Plugins, and, in particular, their native UIs. It seems there are several ways a user can change the value of a parameter, and I had previously assumed that they would either do so through my app's interface, or through a "gesture" a la kAudioUnitEvent_ParameterValueChange, kAudioUnitEvent_BeginParameterChangeGesture, and kAudioUnitEvent_EndParameterChangeGesture. This assumption allowed me to ignore events that are, for example, a side-effect of a preset recall. Unfortunately, I discovered the user can change values through the AU GUI without firing BeginParameterChangeGesture, for example, by typing in a new value into a text field. GRRRRR!

Sure. There's no guarantee or requirement that the begin/end notification be sent. Those events don't actually change the value of a parameter, they just signify that the user has initiated (or ended) a gesture that may (or may not) lead to the parameter value being changed.


You can't tell from where the change occurs. Would you consider a control surface to be the UI, or if a parameter has changed as a result of a MIDI mapping? These are just different routes to changing the parameter as you surmise.

As for discriminating whether the parameter has changed as a result of a preset being set; we haven't discriminated between that source. So, I don't think you are missing anything there.

With the cocoa view, we explicitly removed the preset menu from the default UI - this allows the host to exercise a more precise control and management of how presets are handled. This can include a bracketing notion around the action of setting a preset (factory or custom) where you can ignore the parameter change notifications within that period. Working with this I think you should be able to solve your problem.

Bill


Maybe there's other stuff I don't know about, too, like MIDI changes or something. Ultimately, here's the question: how do I figure out if an event came from the UI? (Why do I care? Well, I'd like to know, for starters, if a given change is something that belongs on the Undo list? How do other apps handle this? Am I missing something?)


thanks for any tips,

	bjorn




----------------------------- Bjorn Roche XO Wave Digital Audio Production and Post-Production Software http://www.xowave.com http://blog.bjornroche.com http://myspace.com/xowave


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