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Re: AU, plugin tempo, musical time information
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Re: AU, plugin tempo, musical time information


  • Subject: Re: AU, plugin tempo, musical time information
  • From: Richard Dobson <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:32:18 +0000

If the "primary division" (if we may call it that) were the eighth-note instead of the quarter-note, and the secondary division could be set variously (and dynamically) to *2 or *3 it would meet most people's needs, most of the time. It would cover all standard changes between symmetrical and assymetrical time-sigs (4/4 <->7/8 etc). Anyone wanting 11/16 would be stuffed, but that is probably an acceptable limit; composers needing that will probably want to use Sibelius or something more algorithmic anyway.

I have however long had the fantasy idea to do a "standard" club track in 4/4, make it good enough that folk want to dance to it, and then after a minute or so sneak in the odd extra 16th note every now and again - a 17/16 bar. And see what happens. Probably have to do it in Csound.

:-)

Richard Dobson


James McCartney wrote:
On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Doug Wyatt wrote:

On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:22 , Paul Davis wrote:

This is quite a strange assumption. I've spoken to several
experienced musicians and this is absolutely the opposite of
their sense of musical time. If the meter shifts to 8, then a
beat is an 1/8th note, not a 1/4. If you were working on a piece
entirely in 5/8 time, you would not count in 1/4's but 1/8ths.
I think the docs are referring to common practice in software
influenced by the design of Standard MIDI Files, not about what's
common practice amongst musicians.

Think of a measure of 7/8 as being 3.5 beats long. This isn't the
"canonical" way that a musician would think of it, but it makes
perfect sense to a drummer contemplating polyrhythms, and it does
have the advantage of a "beat" remaining constant in duration
across meter changes (unless there are also tempo changes).

FWIW, in supercollider I implemented constant beat values instead of constant note values and got complaints in the opposite direction (beats change duration across meter changes), so I think neither way is inherently superior.

Also FWIW, I remember an electronic music conference ca 1984 where
Yamaha was announcing their TX816 (FM synth rack) and some composing
software to go with it based on a constant value *measures* having
1680 ticks or something like that. That got the composers sitting in
the auditorium up in arms!


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