Re: AU, plugin tempo, musical time information
Re: AU, plugin tempo, musical time information
- Subject: Re: AU, plugin tempo, musical time information
- From: Richard Dobson <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:32:18 +0000
If the "primary division" (if we may call it that) were the eighth-note
instead of the quarter-note, and the secondary division could be set
variously (and dynamically) to *2 or *3 it would meet most people's
needs, most of the time. It would cover all standard changes between
symmetrical and assymetrical time-sigs (4/4 <->7/8 etc). Anyone wanting
11/16 would be stuffed, but that is probably an acceptable limit;
composers needing that will probably want to use Sibelius or something
more algorithmic anyway.
I have however long had the fantasy idea to do a "standard" club track
in 4/4, make it good enough that folk want to dance to it, and then
after a minute or so sneak in the odd extra 16th note every now and
again - a 17/16 bar. And see what happens. Probably have to do it in Csound.
:-)
Richard Dobson
James McCartney wrote:
On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:43 AM, Doug Wyatt wrote:
On Nov 2, 2009, at 8:22 , Paul Davis wrote:
This is quite a strange assumption. I've spoken to several
experienced musicians and this is absolutely the opposite of
their sense of musical time. If the meter shifts to 8, then a
beat is an 1/8th note, not a 1/4. If you were working on a piece
entirely in 5/8 time, you would not count in 1/4's but 1/8ths.
I think the docs are referring to common practice in software
influenced by the design of Standard MIDI Files, not about what's
common practice amongst musicians.
Think of a measure of 7/8 as being 3.5 beats long. This isn't the
"canonical" way that a musician would think of it, but it makes
perfect sense to a drummer contemplating polyrhythms, and it does
have the advantage of a "beat" remaining constant in duration
across meter changes (unless there are also tempo changes).
FWIW, in supercollider I implemented constant beat values instead of
constant note values and got complaints in the opposite direction
(beats change duration across meter changes), so I think neither way
is inherently superior.
Also FWIW, I remember an electronic music conference ca 1984 where
Yamaha was announcing their TX816 (FM synth rack) and some composing
software to go with it based on a constant value *measures* having
1680 ticks or something like that. That got the composers sitting in
the auditorium up in arms!
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