we were opensource, once
we were opensource, once
- Subject: we were opensource, once
- From: "Peter O'Gorman" <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 23:52:37 +0900
Hi,
First a note that this is a whine. I know it is. But I find myself looking
at webkit <http://webkit.opendarwin.org> and it is making me remember the day...
Webkit is making use of opendarwin's bugzilla, even for bugs reported by
team members. Webkit has a live cvs repository available to all. Webkit
developers discuss things openly on open mailing lists. The project, at the
moment is truly open. This is good stuff.
But, then I remember. Darwin used to have an open bug system where everyone
could view opensource bugs. Darwin used to have a mostly live cvs repository
that everyone could use to check out almost-up-to-date sources. Darwin used
to even have non-Apple committers.
Now, of course, we get source tarballs. We do get them on-time, and mostly
complete, which is good. But we don't get any input into the development of
the operating system. We do not get any opportunity to help.
There are a number of features included in mac os x 10.4 that I would have
liked to have seen argued/discussed, but there was no forum to do so, so the
discussion remained internal to Apple, and the result, while good, could
have been better.
There is currently no reason for any non-Apple person to start hacking on
darwin. External opensource projects are included in the OS, it is true. But
many of these external projects have to look at the opensource tarballs to
see how to get their projects building/running on a new darwin version. This
is hardly an opensource developers dream.
Oh well. I'm told that writing this will accomplish nothing. I'll simply be
flamed. Whatever. I'm happy to see that at least some people at Apple are
considering opensource. Thanks webkit.
Peter
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Peter O'Gorman - http://www.pogma.com
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