Re: Xcode 2.3 source gone
Re: Xcode 2.3 source gone
- Subject: Re: Xcode 2.3 source gone
- From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:56:06 -0500
On Aug 17, 2006, at 3:33 PM, Mark F. Murphy wrote:
At 3:15 PM -0500 8/17/06, Dave Schroeder wrote:
Kevin, you know this is not directed at individuals at Apple. I'm
grateful for what you do. But I (and I'm sure you, too) do wish
that Apple would devote more resources on the open source front,
especially given how it talks it up from a marketing standpoint,
if it's really difficult for those of you who work on it to keep
up with it.
The assertion that Apple doesn't have enough resources seems to be
based on a couple of implied assumptions:
o No instant gratification from Apple on open source
o Mistakes are made
Well, I don't think I meant to make that assertion myself. Kevin said
"we do what we can", and I think it's pretty well known that he's
pretty much the only person doing the open source packaging and
distribution and support, and that's when he has the time to do it. I
also think that it would be nice to make the Darwin stuff a two-way
proposition, like OpenDarwin intended, allowing contributions back in
from the community; maybe Mac OS Forge will be able to do some of
that as time goes on. But all of these things take resources, in
terms of time, equipment, and management.
You'll get no disagreement from me that managing an entire OS (that
now has two main trees no less, for now), plus the open source
distribution of all of the applicable components, is daunting. But
Apple's a reasonably big company, and can certainly provide
commensurate resources to the open source area. I do welcome and
applaud Apple's recent moves with regard to the iCal Server, Bonjour,
xnu x86 source, and so on, as well as the establishment of Mac OS
Forge. Perhaps the idea that OpenDarwin could do what it intended was
too optimistic...I, however, am still optimistic that open source can
be more of a two-way street with Apple, with the only channel back
not only being the black hole that Bug Reporter sometimes is for
outsiders. I also hope that since Mac OS Forge is more under Apple's
wing than even OD ever was means some of these things can happen.
- Dave
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