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Re: Xcode 2.3 source gone
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Re: Xcode 2.3 source gone


  • Subject: Re: Xcode 2.3 source gone
  • From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:19:34 -0500


On Aug 17, 2006, at 4:09 PM, fletcher sandbeck wrote:

On 2006-08-17 at 15:15 by email@hidden (Dave Schroeder):

Well, I'll eat my hat on this one since you did indeed fix it
promptly. But I'm sure you also understand the concern coming off the
heels of the whole xnu thing.

The removal of the link was revealed to be a simple mistake, and xnu was revealed to be a simple delay. After over-reacting to the removal of the xnu source I would hope that people would be *less* prone to over-react to future issues. I guess I just don't have enough emotional energy invested to understand.

There was no xnu x86 source for about 8 months. That's not what I would call a "delay". No one from Apple would tell anyone why it wasn't released, or when (or if) it would be. The only comment was to say that Tom Yager's articles were nothing more than "speculation". (And while I disagreed with Tom Yager's articles and sensationalism completely, and was actually one of the people who in various forums was actually defending the xnu situation as possibly only a delay, wait for WWDC, etc., all we really had was "speculation".)


For a company that markets itself in various sectors on the benefits of open source, and for organizations that have come to depend on the source for various reasons, when a major piece of it just isn't there for the better part of a year, and there is no communication or guidance from Apple on it whatsoever, and all questions about it go unanswered, yeah, it's kind of a big deal just on principle. I agree that some have more invested in it than others. I'm glad it finally got released, and I suspected it would be, but as Rob Braun said on another list, the fact that it had to be "secret" until Apple was ready to unfurl it again at WWDC is actually part of the problem, because that's kind of antithetical to the philosophy of "open source". Of course there are more issues at play here too, and Apple has its own reasons for wanting to keep things secret sometimes (like, perhaps the features of an open source element that might reveal features of an unannounced machine, perhaps).

The bottom line is that I think Apple needs to reconcile these issues, and not necessarily ALWAYS err on the side of secrecy and non- communication, especially in the context of dealing with larger/ enterprise customers.

- Dave

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