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Re: Cancel Sleep
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Re: Cancel Sleep


  • Subject: Re: Cancel Sleep
  • From: Andre-John Mas <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 13:22:57 -0500


On 31-Dec-07, at 18:50 , Terry Lambert wrote:

There's no contradiction here. The original question is about "how do I write code that would thwart power and thermal management for undisclosed reasons?".

Running with the lid closed and an external monitor/projector and keyboard+mouse is a fully supported configuration, so long as he accepts that without adequate ventilation and cooling, he's subject to thermal throttling. "Adequate" here translates to "must be better with the lid closed than for the same performance with the lid open".

Most of the "cooked" machines I have seen -- I believe the most spectacular one was Guido's IBM ThinkPad, before he learned how to throttle it down and turn off the backlight under FreeBSD; Jordan can correct me -- were not Macs.

They happened either because the OS software, like Linux or FreeBSD, failed to implement thermal management at all, or the drivers that were supposed to talk to them were bogus or missing, or someone deliberately went out of their way to disable it (i.e.: someone answered the question that was asked here, and a programmer took the information and shot his foot off).

I am surprised that this is not handled directly by the firmware, with the OS having an optional over-ride. The way I
see it hardware should be protecting itself against software that doesn't fully recognise the hardware limitations,
and only an explicite over-ride should change this behaviour.


Andre
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