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Re: cross-bounday memory communication b/w user app and the Kernel.How?
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Re: cross-bounday memory communication b/w user app and the Kernel.How?


  • Subject: Re: cross-bounday memory communication b/w user app and the Kernel.How?
  • From: Michael Smith <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 22:03:38 -0700


On Jun 2, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Gallatin wrote:

Terry Lambert writes:
are different address spaces. Unlike most 32 bit OS's intended to
operate on small machines, MacOS X does not map the user process
address space into the kernel address space, so a direct copy is not
possible for a user space buffer when you are operating in kernel
space (or vice versa - which is not possible even on OS's that map
process in, since they don't map the kernel out into user land). The
benefit of doing this is that instead of having only 2G or 3G for your
programs, you get the full 4G. It also means that instead of only
having 2G or 1G for the kernel's use, you have the full 4G - that
effectively means that the kernel can do a lot more housekeeping in
its own memory, and can theerefore run on machines with large amounts
of physical memory (8G, 16G, etc.) without running out of address space.

The downside of this is that things like syscalls take about 8x long as linux on the same hardware the last time I measured them.

The 4/4 split does not noticeably affect the speed of system calls.

It does, however, make it possible to run applications on datasets that you could not otherwise run, and to support hardware that you could not otherwise support. Again, something of a tradeoff in the name of usefulness.

I'm curious as to your measurement methodology, by the way. I have seen very different numbers from a very reliable source.

 = Mike

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