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Re: [Solved] Re: Kernel Panic Cluedo
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Re: [Solved] Re: Kernel Panic Cluedo


  • Subject: Re: [Solved] Re: Kernel Panic Cluedo
  • From: Stephane Sudre <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 23:10:23 +0100


On jeudi, novembre 23, 2006, at 08:14 PM, Michael Smith wrote:

Stephane wrote:
On Nov 22, 2006, at 6:04 PM, Michael Smith wrote:
Stephane wrote:
When you do some bad things in your Kernel Extension (such as writing where you should not, reading a bit too far in buffers, etc...), should a Kernel Panic occur in your Kernel Extension or can it occur later?

It depends on what you damage. If you read/write completely out of bounds, your code will fail. But if you destroy a pointer belonging to someone else, there is no way for the hardware/kernel to know a) that that's what you're doing, or b) to blame you when some other code attempts to use it.

It turned out to be a copyin of a bigger size than required.

It could be cool if there was a Kernel simulator with memory protection...

Protection of what? Read/write memory in the kernel map is freely writable by any code within the kernel; this is what being a "monolithic" kernel is all about.

Well, since this would be a simulator, ideally you would be able to compile a specific version of a kext to run on it and you could tag specific data as protected.


I can see plenty of usage for this "science fiction" simulator thing.

Given how much vilifiction Darwin has received for being a "microkernel" because we "all know" how inefficient they are, I see this rapidly becoming amusing.

I just don't care about this. I'm just dreaming of a solution which would make it easier to track Kernel Panics. The positive output of this bug is that from what I've seen it's apparently way easier to reproduce a memory issue on an Intel Mac than on a PowerPC Mac.


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