Re: Newbie Questions
Re: Newbie Questions
- Subject: Re: Newbie Questions
- From: "mm w" <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:48:39 -0800
hi, it's quite tricky to propose an "history" of mach ukernel as Introduction,
especially with xnu, that doesn't use mach as ukernel, it's like to
propose an "history' of xnu,
i think it's quite void, the Apple doc and the Amit's Book are the good tools
-mmw
On Nov 30, 2007 4:31 PM, Alex Nelson <email@hidden> wrote:
> > I am not completely new to the darwin underpinnings, but I have been
> > assigned a task that definitely requires pretty good knowledge of the
> > mach kernel. First I'd like to ask what's a good introduction to the
> > kernel (let's call it a crash course).
>
> Well, in my opinion there are a number of interesting technical papers on
> the Mach 3 kernel...that is the version of the mach kernel used in the XNU
> kernel.
>
> There is an excellent non-technical introduction that is freely available,
> it is the appendix to the book "Operating System Concepts" (7th ed) by Avi
> Silberschatz, Peter Baer Galvin and Greg Gagne :
> http://codex.cs.yale.edu/avi/os-book/os7/online-dir/Mach.pdf
>
> Another excellent introductory text is "THE MACH SYSTEM":
> http://library.nocrew.org/lib/os/Mach.txt
>
> You may wish to consult the documentation, both publications and unpublished
> works, at the Carnegie Mellon University's Mach page:
>
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/mach/public/www/doc/documents_top.html
>
> Depending on how in depth you want to get, you can always try reading up on
> the Mach 3 source code directly (it's unlicensed):
>
> http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/project/mach/public/www/sources/sources_top.html
>
>
> > Next I'd like to explain what I need to be able to do. I basically
> > need to be able to detect when someone is reading from a shared
> > resource (in this case the display buffer). For what I understand,
> > any such resources are arbitrated through mach ports. If a process
> > needs access to one, it obtains either read or write rights to it
> > (multiple reader, single writer?), and then is able to access the
> > resource. Is this correct? If so, I should be able to determine
> > when someone obtains read access to such a port via the kernel trace
> > facility or something similar. At least that's my idea. Perhaps I
> > am wayyyyyyy off. Feel free to let me know if that's so or if I am
> > oversimplifying things.
>
> Hmm...but wouldn't the display buffer be represented by a file? And using
> the freeBSD virtual file system to access it, if it's accessed wouldn't the
> file be locked?
>
> Again, I'm purely guessing, I may be equally way off.
>
> But I'd use the Unix approach and try to work with the file representation
> of the device.
>
> Cheers!
> Alex Nelson
>
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