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Re: Host tool for KDP over serial
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Re: Host tool for KDP over serial


  • Subject: Re: Host tool for KDP over serial
  • From: David Elliott <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:06:45 -0400

Hi Shantonu,

I am bringing up Darwin on a different type of i386 and I need debug earlier than either Ethernet or FireWire can provide. Ordinarily in a case like this I'd use VMware's debug stub but the problem I'm having is that I have a particular machine that seems to hang during startup with the last IOLog message indicating that IOPCIConfigurator::attach is running. Obviously it's not possible to debug stuff in a VM that only happens on a particular physical machine.

Both the firewire and ethernet debuggers match on the PCI device nub so they aren't available until after PCI configuration has occurred. With a serial-based KDP connection that starts before the PE is started I would presumably be able to figure out where it's hanging and what's happening.

I'll go ahead and write the host-side tool and see if I can get that working. It seems to me that this code must have been used fairly recently since someone bothered to add an #if CONFIG_EMBEDDED to it. So I have to assume the tool exists at Apple. I assume you have your reasons for not wanting to give it up so that's that. I figured it didn't hurt to ask though.

Thanks,
-Dave


On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Shantonu Sen wrote:

I don't believe we have any plans to provide a tool for this, since the only Mac with built-in serial is the Xserve, which has both firewire and ethernet.

Those are the supported transports for doing GDB interactive debugging and saving kernel core dumps.

Shantonu

Sent from my MacBook

On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:46 PM, David Elliott wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to run KDP over RS232 serial on an i386 target. Examination of source in osfmk/kdp indicates that the kernel expects to see ethernet frames coming in over RS232 preceded with 0xFA and ending with 0xFB with occasional escaping using 0xFE to indicate an escape, two's complement of the escaped bytes, and 0xFB to end the escape.

I have succeeded in hand crafting an ARP packet of this format and when I send it down the wire I appear to get the appropriate response from the kernel.

So now I am wondering if Apple has provided or can provide a tool similar to the one for Firewire debugging that listens on UDP 41139 and shuttles the data over a /dev/tty device and back.

If not, writing one would be reasonably easy but I figured I'd ask before embarking on that. Source is preferable as I'd prefer to run it on a Linux machine with a hardware serial port as the PL2303- based USB I have on the host side seems to have strange issues with the driver from sourceforge.

Also, there's an interesting "bug" of sorts in the code. The IP of the KDP will actually be different depending on whether it's big or little endian. The target's IP is set to 0xABADBABE so on little endian targets the IP is 190.186.173.171 but on big endian targets it would presumably be 171.173.186.190. A bad babe indeed.

-Dave

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