Re: [Fed-Talk] First no iMacs at DOD labs next no powerbooks?
Re: [Fed-Talk] First no iMacs at DOD labs next no powerbooks?
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] First no iMacs at DOD labs next no powerbooks?
- From: Michael Kluskens <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:45:11 -0500
Should clarify. Computers/PDA/Cellphones with embedded cameras are
banned from this installation, even if the user has a camera pass.
*** Thou shall not pass the front gate with an embedded camera. ***
I'm just waiting for the first banned car, some high enders have a
camera review mirror system.
Michael
On Nov 8, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Basil A Decina wrote:
Worse...
There is already a regulation (that is STRICTLY enforced) that one
cannot bring cameras of ANY sort into a SCIF. However, one can
bring a Government-owned laptop (with wireless turned off and IR
covered) into a SCIF (yes, there are rules on their use).
If there are only camera-equipment PowerBooks in the future, Apple
will effectively stop all sales to many DoD and *all* IC purchasers.
This has already caused problems with cell phones. The cell phone
companies, for example, were forced to continue to offer non-camera
wireless phones (when they didn't want to) as DoD told them none of
their future phones would qualify. (FYI... Camera phones are also
banned from all DoD installations --- classified or unclassified,
Government-owned or not.)
Smart or stupid --- those are the rules (and the result of breaking
does not lead to a pleasant experience).
Basil
At 2:04 PM -0500 11/8/05, Rich Trouton wrote:
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I second that. While there isn't currently a regulation at the
NIH that forbids having computers, or cell phones, with built-in
cameras, that's a regulation that could be added if someone
decided to make a fuss about it. If you want to add cameras to the
laptops, please make it an add-on option that can be left off or
something external that's in the accessories box along with the
power cord and telephone cable.
Thanks,
Rich
On Nov 8, 2005, at 1:56 PM, Michael Kluskens wrote:
Last time I mentioned that iSight cameras in iMacs prevented the
purchase of iMacs at any DOD labs following the rules, someone
pointed out that we didn't have to purchase iMacs. For desktops it
is believable that there will always be a choice, I can't imagine an
iSight camera in a Mac mini or a PowerMac G5 case.
However, what about laptops. I can easily imagine iSight cameras in
all Apple laptops and why not, cost is the only issue right? Given
that 15" and 17" PowerBooks are the Mac of choice for people
converting from PC to Mac in my group, the following comment in
Wired
from AppleInsider is of concern (obviously no Apple employee can
comment on the following):
"For starters, the much anticipated dual-core Intel processors will
make an appearance in the new 15-inch PowerBooks, which are set to
include built-in iSight cameras. Later, the company looks to be
planning a 13-inch widescreen iBook to augment (or possibly replace)
its existing entry-level lineup. Finally, toward the end of 2006,
Apple will roll out its Intel-based 17-inch PowerBooks, which will
also include the iSight."
True or not, I hope someone at Apple realizes that DOD Lab employees
who purchase PowerBooks at work instead of Dells, often purchase two
additional Macs for home and then eventually more for other family
members. The Unix under OS X makes PowerBooks ideal for our
technical work.
And no we can't take the camera out after purchase, we asked
security.
Michael
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