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Re: More CAC issues [was- [Fed-Talk] PKINIT and Kerberos
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Re: More CAC issues [was- [Fed-Talk] PKINIT and Kerberos


  • Subject: Re: More CAC issues [was- [Fed-Talk] PKINIT and Kerberos
  • From: Dalton Hamilton <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:00:57 +0100

I work at LRMC and they are part of the AD cloud; however, our Apple users don't join the AD domain because we've never wanted to.

For mail, I first started using Entourage to our Exchange 2000 server but then they blocked port 80. I then configured Entourage to connect to the http: web address of our Exchange 2000 server. However, Entourage gave me problems in a few areas, was extremely slow, and not to mention no spotlight support to search through my thousands of emails. So, I decided to use Apple Mail.

I've always liked Apple Mail better, it is faster, implements threads, and more reliable. It also connects fine to Exchange servers; however, our Exchange server did not have IMAP enabled. I then moved my email account to AKO and all worked great. I can now use Apple Mail to send and receive signed and encrypted email and it is wonderful to be able to use spotlight to find historical emails that I need. When I first switched to AKO, I too received an electronic warning that I was using too much disk space and got warnings that I was over my space limit. A quick change to Mail preferences to not store sent and deleted emails on the server fixed that.

As for printing, as mentioned earlier by someone else, I print directly to the printer -- be it HP LaserJet, HP MultiFunction, and IP directly to our plotter. Why go through a windows (or any AD resource) print queue to print -- doesn't make sense to me.

As for shares, this also works for us. Though our systems don't join the AD domain, we, as users, still have AD accounts and are able to use those accounts to connect to windows shares. Of course our Linux and OSX Server shares are not part of the AD either.

We have no plans to join the AD domain.

I guess there must be a reason why you join. Today, I'm happy to not be required to join. Windows users are always complaining about the AD problems.




----------------------------------------------------------------- Dalton Hamilton if(1) OSX 


On Nov 15, 2005, at 11:17 PM, Timothy J. Miller wrote:

Monahan, Jim (Contractor) wrote:

Prior to moving to AD, we used v2 of the activecard client, which provided the ability to program the users ID, password, and domain on the card. We did so; when they inserted the card at the login screen, windows asked for the pin, then read the UID/pw/domain from the cac card.

Oh dear lord, that old hack?

That wasn't PKI-enabled logon. The AF *very* briefly did the same, and rescinded it because, frankly, there's no security benefit.

When we converted to AD, we removed v2 and installed v3 of the activecard software.
Activecard 3 does not have the option to configure uid/pw/domain.
or as you stated, that function may have been disabled or removed by 'others'

Lacking that configuration option, I made the logical leap that in order to be able to login via CAC, another version of activecard will be needed, and that we will have to touch every machine to configure the users cards, etc

Enabling smartcard logon (which uses the PKINIT draft extension to Kerberos) takes place on the domain. So long as users have CACs, PINs, some version of middleware, and readers, they shouldn't have to do anything once it's been done in the domain.


-- Tim
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