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RE: [Fed-Talk] New MacBooks - can camera come out?
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RE: [Fed-Talk] New MacBooks - can camera come out?


  • Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] New MacBooks - can camera come out?
  • From: "Claiborne, Ronald MAJ PEO EIS PM DCATS" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 10:18:53 -0500

Title: Re: [Fed-Talk] New MacBooks - can camera come out?
Lewis,
 
    The epoxy fix, or drilling a hole in the lens is more than sufficient. If someone has an accreditation official that says that this isn't sufficient... Well, I'd start looking for a better place to work.

RC
 

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From: fed-talk-bounces+ronald.claiborne=email@hidden [mailto:fed-talk-bounces+ronald.claiborne=email@hidden] On Behalf Of Lewis Bean
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 10:14 AM
To: email@hidden
Subject: RE: [Fed-Talk] New MacBooks - can camera come out?

I spoke to the Apple product marketing team, and for now, they are not working on a solution to remove the camera from either the iMac or MacBook Pro.
 
I agree that a significant commitment to purchase might change their minds, and I am sure there is a federal reseller who would be willing to aggregate those orders (smile). 
 
While discussing the issue with them someone mentioned a low-tech fix might solve the problem.  Specifically that obscuring the lens with epoxy has been accepted as a legitimate fix in some places for cell phone cameras.  Have any of you in secure locations found this to be true?
 
Thanks,
Lewis Bean
GTSI Apple Team


From: fed-talk-bounces+lewis.bean=email@hidden [mailto:fed-talk-bounces+lewis.bean=email@hidden] On Behalf Of Peter Link
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:48 PM
To: email@hidden
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] New MacBooks - can camera come out?

LLNL uses an authorized reseller who performs some of the final computer configuration. One of their tasks is to make sure there isn't a wireless card in any computers. Requiring that they modify the computers (Macs, Dells, etc.) would be under their contract with LLNL.

I have also talked with our Apple account rep about a special configuration; in this case for DOE. She said that Apple wants a commitment for 1000 computers before they will change the production line. DoD is much larger than DOE and would carry much more weight if they asked Apple for a special configuration (no iSight, no Wireless/Bluetooth, etc.). My initial contact with Apple was for diskless Macs, which is easy in an iMac and Powermac and could be done by a reseller. It isn't easy in a Powerbook or MacBook Pro and should be offered by Apple.

I have not received any information from Apple about the previous iMac with iSight configuration although I was told they were working on an official removal guide that would not violate the warranty (see http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300205 for iMac G5 w/o iSight). If the iSight is easy to remove, then the reseller should be able to do it for less money than having Apple change their production line (Apple's suggestion).

Who wants to push the request for a special configuration for government and enterprise users through Apple? There have been special educational configurations so it's not totally out of the question.



Same boat here. Can't use the new MacBooks unless the camera is disabled, and preferably not with software. Also, still need to maintain the Apple warranty, so we can't just open the case can cut wires or anything (which is probably very difficult anyways). Our reseller is looking into possibilities. MacBooks may single handily kills Macs in many government agencies.

Thank you,

Allan Marcus
CCN-1: Departmental Computing
Computing, Communications, and Network Division
Los Alamos National Laboratory
505-667-9531


On Jan 10, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Rich Trouton wrote:

I haven't seen pictures of the new MacBooks yet, but I understand that they have an iSight built in. Is it a BTO option to get it removed?

        Rich

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