Re: [Fed-Talk] Forcing Safari to use Email Cert
Re: [Fed-Talk] Forcing Safari to use Email Cert
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Forcing Safari to use Email Cert
- From: Boyd Fletcher <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 14:51:45 -0400
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Forcing Safari to use Email Cert
On 5/13/08 1:14 PM, "Timothy J Miller" <email@hidden> wrote:
> On May 13, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Boyd Fletcher wrote:
>
>> AppleĀ¹s solution in Leopard of using Keychain Access at least makes
>> it possible (when it works) but that is a very customer unfriendly
>> approach.
>
> Only if you need to set it manually. Safari sets it automatically
> *if* the site sends the fatal alter message *and* the user selects a
> cert that is accepted by the server.
>
we have already determined the correct behavior is not the norm.
>> I agree Apple should find a solution for Safari to prompt the user
>> for the certificate to use.
>>
>> This is one of the most common problems discussed on the Apple
>> Federal mailing list and Apple still refuses to fix the solution in
>> the way users would like......
>
> It's a philosophical point. Should a client developer provide
> workarounds for an improper server configurations? At what point do
> you draw a line and say no more? (This is part of the reason IE went
> from halfway decent as Spyglass Mosaic to complete mess as IE3 in two
> years. :)
>
> Apple culturally leans toward the "pure" side of things. RFCs are
> implemented strictly even when lax implementation is the norm (see
> many previous discussions re: S/MIME and email address case
> sensitivity). Yes, this is inconvenient, but to be honest I can't
> fault them for it--fixing the problem to make strict cases work
> doesn't break lax implementations, but being lax can and does break
> implementations that are "differently" lax.
>
> -- Tim
>
so the users get screwed because a bunch of s/w engineers want to be
idealists. that's silly, for an operating that is well known for its ease of
use, the fact that this is still not working in an acceptable manner is
inexcusable. operating systems and software exist solely to make people's
lives easier and more efficient. they serve no other useful purpose.
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