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Re: [Fed-Talk] Are there other accreditable-small office home- NAS solutions other than a Mac mini and an external HD drive bay?
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Re: [Fed-Talk] Are there other accreditable-small office home- NAS solutions other than a Mac mini and an external HD drive bay?


  • Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Are there other accreditable-small office home- NAS solutions other than a Mac mini and an external HD drive bay?
  • From: Taylor Armstrong <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 09:21:13 -0500

If the 4gb driver limit is on the network device, a Drobo certainly won't be a cost-effective solution... it isn't perfectly clear, but my impression is that the network device itself can only recognize 4gb attached to the USB port.

(Of course, I've not had any caffine yet, so if you're talking about connecting a drobo downstream to the syslog server itself, my apologies, and please, blame it on caffine (or the lack thereof)

Taylor

Matt Jurek wrote:
I know you said other than External Hd, but check out a Drobo at Drobo.com I think that could be a very good solution for you.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Jacob, Raymond A Jr. CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 58420 <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:

    Background: Juniper and Cisco, firewalls and routers have a USB port.
    I had hoped to connect a 300GB USB drive to the USB ports on the
    network devices
    and forget about sysloging.

    I was able to connect a ToGo/Passport Drive to the firewall.
    Unfortunately,
    the maximum size that the USB driver can attach is 4GB.

    Problem Definition:
    Syslog is my next option. I thought instead of buying an external
    drive enclosure with drive bays and Hard drives for
    the current syslog server that I could use a small branch office NAS.

    The price and performance looked good. Then I wanted to know,
    if any of the vendors - Robo,QNAP,Synology, or Thecus had syslog
    server software that could
    accept syslog messages from network devices and store those
    messages on the drives in the NAS.
    I found a lot of requests from users asking the vendors for
    sysloging capability.
    I found that most of the NAS systems ran a version of Linux-I
    guess NSLU2. I found that the processors in the
    small office NAS systems were ARM.
    I also found one could install unslung-NSLU2- then install
    ipkg's-Linux/Open Source packages ported to NSLU2.
    There is an ipkg for syslog-ng. So I thought I was done.

    When I started this long and now foolish tangent. I thought of a
    NAS as
    Direct Attached Storage(DAS) over the network so I would not need
    to be bothered with network accreditation if I put the device
    on a private network in my office behind a desktop firewall. Then
    I read the "Sharing Peripherals Across the Network (SPAN) STIG."
    If I understand the "STIG" without re-reading it three(3) times
    and laying prostrate at the alter of Google trying
    to figure out how to comply with the stig then I need to scan the
    O/S of the NAS and remediate any findings
    before I can attach the NAS to the network.

    This lead me to the question-the answer to you maybe obvious but
    not to me.
    Where will I download the latest O/S patches, application updates
    and security fixes from?
    I did or could find a security section on the vendors website. I
    will add that users of NAS from various vendors
    have been enable to install Fedora(for ARM processors) and
    Debian(for ARM processors). Unfortunately, I have
    never had the opportunity to do a retina scan a Dell Powervault or
    EMC NAS in order to use those devices as guide
    for accreditation of NAS on the network.

    When one mentions accreditation,
    Of course there is a difference between: 1) A $200-$700 NAS to
    keep backups,
    and syslogs files generated when I am testing or configuring
    equipment in my cubicle. And 2) $10,000 to $20,000
    for a SAN, HBA cards, FC, Fiber switches,... that is supposedly
    urgently needed but when deployed not frequently
    used and when deployed originally certainly not to be soiled by my
    dirty network logs.
    I am just being petty. I apologize.


Question: My conclusion is: If I want a small form factor device with a supportable O/S to use as a syslsog server and NAS that supports CIFS/Web folders/(Iscsi would be nice too) then I need to procure a MacMini(or MacMini Server) and an External Hard Drive enclosure with drive bays.


Are my assertions and conclusions correct? If anyone on the list has any accreditable alternatives to a MacMini then I would like to know. PS: Can a MacMini running Snow Leopard or Snow Leopard server be an iscsi target or does one need to install Open Source software or buy 3rd party software?

    thank you,
    raymond



    So unless I can convince Juniper and assuming Cisco has the same
    limitation to
    rewrite their USB driver to support a larger size of USB devices
    than older flash
    devices that we can not have.

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