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  • Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] WWDC?
  • From: Mark <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:15:30 -0400

I'm curious if ATT or Apple will allow my first gen iphone to be sim unlocked. I fulfilled my contract, the phone is my property, I want it sim unlocked without having to jail break it.

Cheers
- Mark

On Jun 10, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Taylor Armstrong wrote:

Everyone seems to be complaining about the price, but in reality, there *is no price jump*. The problem is that we are viewing this from the perspective of Apple clients, rather than ATT clients.

ATT always charges a premium for a new phone unless you are outside of your contract term ("upgrade eligible"). They subsidize the phones (all phones) heavily, so this is how they lock you in and guarantee that they'll get their $$ back from the hardware. The problem is that the original, Edge iPhone was not subsidized. When the 3G iPhone came out, this meant that people were able to upgrade cheaply, because ATT didn't care how old your current phone was. Now, most people who bought a 3G are still within the limits of their contract, and ATT isn't going to swallow the cost of the subsidy until you are upgrade eligible.

I got bitten the other way around. When I needed a new phone, I switched to ATT and bought a cheap-o phone a couple of months before the 3G's were released, expecting to "upgrade" to an iPhone after the new models came out. Instead, ATT began to subsidize them, and since I'd just bought a new phone, I wasn't eligible. I'm not eligible for a discounted upgrade for another 4 months, which means I'm STILL not buying one until October.

We're used to Apple's sales, in which hardware isn't subsidized, and we can upgrade (at full price) as often as we (and our wallets) allow. ATT is the same way - they'll let you buy it at the full price as often as you want, people just balk when they realize that an iPhone costs almost as much as a base-model Macbook when it isn't subsidized.

Taylor

Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC wrote:

I watched the video. But I never heard any of these issues mentioned:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/166350/four_reasons_why_iphone_owners_hate_atandt.html


I'm troubled by the huge tethering (if it's ever allowed in the US) fee and the near doubling of the price of an Iphone for some folks which was never mentioned anywhere I heard of apart from this article. I'm handicapped and can't get to the store on D- (delivery) day to get mine and all my would-be drivers are out of town. I had hoped to have mine delivered to my door through pre- sales purchase but can't (kept being told on the website and phone that i must go in) and I suspect it might have something to do with the unadvertised price jump as it would be a replacement phone.

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From: "Trouton, Rich (NIH/NHGRI) [C]" <email@hidden>
Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 16:58
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] WWDC?
To: "Wm. Cerniuk" <email@hidden>
Cc: Fed Talk <email@hidden>



Yep, I'm here and so is David Hester and Ben Stanfield from NIH.

Thanks,
Rich

On Jun 9, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Wm. Cerniuk wrote:


Anyone from our list at WWDC. I know Rich T is....

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Wm. Cerniuk
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