[Fed-Talk] RE: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 149
[Fed-Talk] RE: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 149
- Subject: [Fed-Talk] RE: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 149
- From: "Gordon, Bob Ctr AF/A3/5PEG" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:50:54 -0400
- Acceptlanguage: en-US
- Thread-topic: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 149
I have had the iPhone since the beginning and I have now ordered my new iPhone. ATT has bent over backwards to make sure I have had excellent service. I had them re-acquire a cell near my home so I could get service in my basement, they worked with Pentagon telecommunications folks so we have good signal in the bulls eye or inside court. Now over the last 6 months I have noticed a slowing down of my edge service and that is because they have been building up the 3g service. They told me to expect that and they apologized. They are going to have antenna's in the Metro subway system in a year and half. That is the only place I don't get signal. If you have problems and call them and work with them they will try their best to make you happy. Just don't expect to have things fixed immediately. Be patient. The phone is great the service is good. I am satisfied.
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1. Re: AKO/DKO and Safari 4 (Dave Schroeder)
2. Re: ATT Butchering iPhone (Dave Schroeder)
3. Re: ATT Butchering iPhone (Peter Link)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:32:07 -0500
From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] AKO/DKO and Safari 4
To: David Emery <email@hidden>
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No version of Safari is supported by AKO. And yes, there are a number
of problems. :-/
- Dave
On Jun 11, 2009, at 10:20 AM, David Emery wrote:
> Anyone else having problems with AKO/DKO using Safari 4?
> It would be A Good Thing for Apple to check out why things seem to
> work OK on Firefox but not Safari 4. If this represents standards
> problems within Safari 4, Apple should address them. If it
> represents non-conformance or use of extensions by AKO/DKO, that's
> something that should be fed back to the Army AKO PM.
>
> All I know is that I got a "time to change your password" message
> today, and was unable to get the password change form to come up
> under Safari 4 (but it worked just fine in Firefox.)
>
> dave
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:34:59 -0500
From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] ATT Butchering iPhone
To: Joel Esler <email@hidden>
Cc: Fed Talk <email@hidden>
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No, MMS is definitely disabled on iPhone 3G accounts. It may be
enabled on first gen iPhone accounts, and variously on other iPhone
accounts whose numbers/accounts/SIMs may have had other plans which
had MMS enabled. So it's definitely true that MMS is disabled for
(nearly) all iPhone 3G customers, and needs to be enabled for 3.0.
I'm not sure the part of the rumor about AT&T having added (or having
to remove them) *manually* is correct, but they do need to change the
iPhone 3G data plan provisioning to allow MMS. (I have a friend who
happens to be an AT&T Corporate store manager.)
- Dave
On Jun 11, 2009, at 10:29 AM, Joel Esler wrote:
> I wouldn't doubt it. I was just saying what the "rumor" i heard
> was. I don't think anyone but AT&T knows.
>
> J
>
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Mark <email@hidden> wrote:
> I am not sure that is correct. Some months ago, I took my first gen
> iPhone sim card and placed it into my unlocked Treo 650 and recall
> receiving an MMS. I'll have to try that again to verify.
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2009, at 11:22 AM, Joel Esler wrote:
>
> What I hear is that MMS+SMS is the same messaging package, however,
> since, before now the iPhone didn't receive MMS, AT&T had to go in
> and put a manual block on each account that blocks MMS from heading
> out to the phone. Now they have to go and back all those manual
> blocks out.
>
> That's the rumor.
>
> J
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA) <email@hidden
> > wrote:
> What I find interesting is the fact that ATT says that they need to
> upgrade their infrastructure to support MMS picture mesaging, yet
> every other phone they have does pictures just fine (even the old
> crappy ones that I have laying around).
>
>
> I think the real story is "We need to come up with a price increase
> for MMS messaging for iPhone."
>
>
> I have unlimited family text on mine, which is supposed to include
> picture messaging...
>
>
> ATT is really a lousy excuse for a carrer. the iPhone is
> respsonsible for their success... if my iPhones would work on
> Verizon or Sprint, I would be there...
>
>
> But this no MMS messaging makes the 3.0 software very limited... not
> to mention no tethering...
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:39:15 -0700
From: Peter Link <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] ATT Butchering iPhone
To: Joel Esler <email@hidden>
Cc: email@hidden, "Pike, Michael \(IHS/NPA\)"
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Before we place blame on anyone, let's look at AT&T's coverage viewer, https://www.wireless.att.com/olam/loginAction.olamexecute?goto=welcome
. I entered Sandia Albuquerque's address and it produced this 3G
coverage map of that area. If I understand it correctly, AT&T is
saying they have great coverage. The second map shows basic cellular
access, all in the best range. I have AT&T cellular service and my
daughter has a first generation iPhone (she says I don't need one). If
you use the coverage viewer for our house, it shows we're in a dead
zone. This doesn't surprise me since where I live only has 2 cell
towers in the local area and we sit on the low side of a hill (short
mountain). I've been to SNL and Kirtland is as flat as a board
(compared to where I live) allowing good cellular reception without
any obstructions.
For those people who do live in Albuquerque, I'd take this map to AT&T
and have them justify it.
I understand why Kirtland doesn't want cell towers on their site,
after all it is a military base.
On Jun 11, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Joel Esler wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA) <email@hidden
> > wrote:
> I agree! :)
>
>
> also to note, at least here in ABQ, NM (regarding federal and ATT
> carrier) is Kirtland AFB (from what ATT has told me) would not allow
> ATT on the land to install a 3G tower, hence the terrible 3G
> coverage in the SE area of ABQ by Kirtland.
>
>
> That does not explain the terrible coverage for 3G everywhere else
> in the city, but that is the reason they gave me for terrible (3G
> coverage by Kirtland).
>
>
> If what you say is true, that doesn't sound like AT&T's fault, that
> sounds like AF's fault.
>
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