Re: [Fed-Talk] Still no CAC reader for Mac Book Pros?
Re: [Fed-Talk] Still no CAC reader for Mac Book Pros?
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Still no CAC reader for Mac Book Pros?
- From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:01:13 -0500
It doesn't have to be a "CAC reader".
All Dell "pro"/business laptops have SmartCard readers (which accept
CACs). I'm not disputing your general reasoning, but there is no
reason for the ExpressCard slot on Apple's "Pro" laptops to be of the /
34 variety. At least /54 would have allowed for a much wider range of
options, including an internal SmartCart (and thus, CAC) reader.
ExpressCard/34 is comparatively worthless.
- Dave
On Mar 12, 2009, at 9:56 AM, Joel Esler wrote:
I doubt that Apple will ever build a CAC card reader into any
laptop. Ever. It's a niche need. (Meaning on the Government [and
only certain entities in the goverment] at this time have it widely
deployed.)
Apple probably feels that USB add-ons are sufficient. (heck they
got rid of modems!)
Have you ever taken apart a macbook pro? Seen how tight the
components are in there to get a laptop down to that size? That's
why they went with a full 2 centimeters of removal. Plus, Apple
doesn't hang on to old tech very long (PCMCIA), they went with
ExpressCard.
Heck, they've removed their OWN standard from several of their
machines (firewire).
J
On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Michael Kluskens <email@hidden>
wrote:
The MacBook Pro and a great many other laptops come with a expansion
slot (PCMCIA, ExpressCard/54, ExpressCard/34). DoD laptop users
expect to use that slot for their CAC card reader, my supervisor and
his sponsor certainly do. That they have carry yet another USB
device around to use an Apple laptop does not win any points with
them. I've seen the wear and tear USB smart card readers take when
carried constantly by laptop users, they become throw away devices.
If the Apple designers had bothered to check the availability
devices for ExpressCard/34 and ExpressCard/54 they might have
noticed that certain expansion devices were not available for
ExpressCard/34 and were rather impractical for ExpressCard/34.
Explain how saving 20 mm in the layout of the Mac Book Pro was so
critical. Given there is no third-party solution by now it seems
Apple should have developed a solution by now.
The issue about ExpressCard/34 smart card readers was discussed
heavily 3 years ago and still there is no solution, other then the
comment
On May 17, 2006, at 4:49:29 PM, Shawn Geddis wrote:
Physical insertion of your Smart Card inside your laptop is not the
best of conditions, since the card / reader typically stick out.
There are other technical means that are more elegant and more Apple-
like.
I don't see where the USB smart card reader is a more elegant
solution than a ExpressCard/54 slot and reader, and the USB is all
we have after three years so therefore obviously Apple has no other
solution.
Michael
On Mar 11, 2009, at 10:30:54 AM, Hayes, Dennis wrote:
Michael -
There are several USB readers out there, including ones on keyboards
by
both Dell and HP.
We've (EDS/HP) posted instructions on how to use CAC cards, update
drivers, configure OS X, etc. to gain access to DoD OWA email at
http://idisk.mac.com/dp.hayes-Public/
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 9:04 AM
To: email@hidden
Subject: [Fed-Talk] Still no CAC reader for Mac Book Pros?
As near as I can tell there is still is no CAC/Smart Card reader for
use with the Mac Book Pro's?
All I found were ExpressCard/54 smart card readers, and the DoD
approved Bluetooth CAC readers only have drivers for Windows and
Blackberry.
Does OS X 10.5.6 come with drivers for any of the DoD approved
Bluetooth CAC readers?
What happened to the "better" solution that Shawn suggested was on
it's way.
To save 20 mm on the side of the Mac Book Pro Apple locked DoD users
out of insertable smart card readers.
Michael
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