Re: [Fed-Talk] Snow Leopard transition creates problems
Re: [Fed-Talk] Snow Leopard transition creates problems
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Snow Leopard transition creates problems
- From: Jeffrey Compton <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:44:13 -0400
Very well spoken, Dave.
Thank you very much for posting some common sense remarks that I would
venture to bet the vast majority of us support.
Jeffrey Compton
Senior Macintosh Systems Administrator, SAIC
Walter Reed Army Medical Center/DOIM
Washington, DC
On Oct 1, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Dave Schroeder wrote:
You "wouldn't put it past them"?
Come on.
When Apple breaks something (that shouldn't work in the first place,
like the Palm Pre iTunes syncing, for which Palm was reprimanded by
the USB Forum), they make it explicitly known. When it's something
unintentional, it's because you can't predict how an OS update may
interact with unsupported hacks to core or low-level functionality
of a device. And Apple makes that pretty well known, too.
There is no intent in 3.1 to cause random crashes, short battery
life, etc., with a modified carrier file. If it occurs, it's merely
an unintended side effect.
And again, speaking from the perspective of an organization that has
literally thousands of iPhones and iPod touches, 3.1 has been our
most stable and trouble-free OS yet for the majority of users.
As to Apple "pulling something out" of iTunes in every version, I
wonder what your thoughts are on sharing/syncing of media between
home computers, a major new feature that Apple obviously fought to
include again, after it was pulled many moons ago, no doubt at the
urging of content owners? When things get pulled, it's for a reason,
not because Apple has a vendetta against you.
I have many complaints with Apple -- too many to list. However, I
hate to break it you you, but Apple is not out to screw you. It is
not Apple's call whether to provide tethering, MMS, etc., in a
particular market; and on issues surrounding copyrighted media,
Apple is operating in a complex legal and policy landscape in dozens
of countries' jurisdictions and an array of rights holders. It's
amazing Apple has been able to build the ecosystem it has.
The iPhone may be an amazing hardware device, but just because
things are technically possible doesn't mean they all can be enabled
for all users. You may be able to say, "I can tether just fine and
I'd never pay a dime more since it obviously works as-is and Apple
is unfairly denying us this feature", but if everyone did it at the
current pricing model, AT&T's network would collapse spectacularly.
We're talking about a company for whom a 20% dropped call rate in
New York City is described as "consistent with service in this
area". You might say, well, Apple should ditch AT&T, then. And then
what? Who would be a single strong carrier partner to promote a
device like iPhone to the masses, not to the tech geek elite who are
content to hack their phones day in and day out? There are multiple
factors at play here.
As a federal employee on an Apple-sponsored list, I'm still
surprised you so blatantly seem to promote violating AT&T's terms of
service and using the iPhone in a manner unsupported by Apple, and
then complain about it to boot.
- Dave
On Oct 1, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA) wrote:
I wouldn't put it past them, however, I know people that are in the
same boat and the battery life and locking problems are awful.
I've made a practice of archiving every Apple app I have... iTunes
almost always pulls something out we had before, so at least I can
always roll back if I have to. I have every iTunes going back to 6.
-----Original Message-----
From: fed-talk-bounces+michael.pike=email@hidden on
behalf of Walls, Bryan K. (MSFC-IS30)
Sent: Wed 9/30/2009 4:20 PM
To: Dave Downin
Cc: email@hidden Talk
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Snow Leopard transition creates problems
I wonder if 3.1 was designed to behave badly with a modified carrier
description?
I had 3.0.1, never hacked tethering, and have upgraded to 3.1. Seeing
improved battery life and stability.
On Sep 30, 2009, at 5:05 PM, Dave Downin wrote:
> I had 3.1 on my iPhone for exactly one day and noticed poor battery
> life, reduced cellular strength, and had a "coma". I had no idea
of
> these issues before I installed it. Needless to say, I'm now
back on
> 3.0.1 and enjoying tethering and what to me is a far more stable
OS.
>
> -Dave
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 30, 2009, at 4:56 PM, Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
wrote:
>
>> On 9/30/09 8:52 AM, "Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA)" <email@hidden
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wish they would do that with the iPhone os as well. 3.1 is
crap.
>>> Even Peter Cohen of macworld (well formerly of macworld) is
>>> tweeting about lock ups, terrible battery life, etc.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> As a counterpoint, 3.1 is the most stable OS we've had to date on
>> iPhone and iPod touch, and we are fielding far less complaints
about
>> issues than with 3.0 or any previous version of iPhone OS.
>>
>> - Dave
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