[Fed-Talk] RE: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 251
[Fed-Talk] RE: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 251
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Today's Topics:
1. Window 7 for students : $ 29.00 (Kim, Andrew (SCC))
2. Window 7 for students : $ 29.00 (Kim, Andrew (SCC))
3. Re: Window 7 for students : $ 29.00 (Dave Schroeder)
4. Re: Re: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 249 (Allan Marcus)
5. Re: Window 7 for students : $ 29.00 (Allan Marcus)
6. docks (Walls, Bryan K. (MSFC-IS30))
7. Re: docks (James Alcasid)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:38:29 -0400
From: "Kim, Andrew (SCC)" <email@hidden>
Subject: [Fed-Talk] Window 7 for students : $ 29.00
To: "email@hidden" <email@hidden>,
"<email@hidden> (SCC)" <"Andrew
>"@a-ess-sen4s.senate.gov>
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Microsoft is offering college student a hefty price slice on it's upcoming Windows 7 Operating System by matching Apple's Snow Leopard upgrade.
Interesting enough, to help promote the limited time price break, Microsoft launched a New Website: http://www.win741.com/
,that also tells students just how hip with Wins 7.
Unfortunately, the promotion includes Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional editions, and is good through January 3, 2010.
Considering how poorly Windows Vista was received, Microsoft needs something to help boost consumer interest in its new operating system.
Regards,
Andy Kim
US Senate
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:42:48 -0400
From: "Kim, Andrew (SCC)" <email@hidden>
Subject: [Fed-Talk] Window 7 for students : $ 29.00
To: "email@hidden" <email@hidden>,
"<email@hidden> (SCC)" <"Andrew
>"@a-ess-sen4s.senate.gov>
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Microsoft is offering college student a hefty price slice on it's upcoming Windows 7 Operating System by matching Apple's Snow Leopard upgrade.
Interesting enough, to help promote the limited time price break, Microsoft launched a New Website: http://www.win741.com/
,that also tells students just how hip with Wins 7.
Unfortunately, the promotion includes Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional editions, and is good through January 3, 2010.
Considering how poorly Windows Vista was received, Microsoft needs something to help boost consumer interest in its new operating system.
Regards,
Andy Kim
US Senate
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:45:59 -0500
From: Dave Schroeder <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Window 7 for students : $ 29.00
To: "Kim, Andrew (SCC)" <email@hidden>
Cc: Fed Talk <email@hidden>
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I find it curious that this is even referred to as "matching" Apple's
price, as if it somehow represents a choice between Windows 7 and Mac
OS X: people either have a PC, or a Mac, and they're not going to have
a choice of which OS is appropriate for their system. If they have
more than one system, it's not like a the Windows 7 upgrade is going
to "stop" someone from getting Snow Leopard if the also have a Mac. I
know you're just repeating how many places have reported it, but I'd
hardly call it a "match"; just that MS is selling a particular version
of the Windows 7 upgrade for existing Windows users with .edu email
addresses.
I suppose some Boot Camp or virtualization users will take advantage
of the Windows 7 upgrade, but even those folks are already Mac owners...
- Dave
On Sep 18, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Kim, Andrew (SCC) wrote:
>
> Microsoft is offering college student a hefty price slice on it?s
> upcoming Windows 7 Operating System by matching Apple?s Snow
> Leopard upgrade.
> Interesting enough, to help promote the limited time price break,
> Microsoft launched a New Website: http://www.win741.com/
> ,that also tells students just how hip with Wins 7.
>
> Unfortunately, the promotion includes Windows 7 Home Premium and
> Professional editions, and is good through January 3, 2010.
> Considering how poorly Windows Vista was received, Microsoft needs
> something to help boost consumer interest in its new operating system.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy Kim
> US Senate
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:38:45 -0600
From: Allan Marcus <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Re: Fed-talk Digest, Vol 6, Issue 249
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I disagree on the docking station. I commonly have 2 USB, a firewire,
a monitor, speakers, and power connected to my laptop. I take my
laptop to meetings and home on weekends, and dealing with all those
cables, especially making sure they don't fall behind the desk, was
well worth the cost of the dock.
If you rarely take the computer with you, then it might not be needed.
If you take the computer with you and you have lots of cables, it's
fantastic.
Just depends on your situation.
---
Thanks,
Allan Marcus
505-667-5666
On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Kim Hersh wrote:
> If you are looking at what you need for security reasons, it depends
> mainly on what the security requirements for your area are. If I
> had to guess, I would say that Bluetooth would not be allowed, but
> you would have to check what the security plan for the network to
> which you would be attaching the machine.
>
> In any case, most of the time, when security requires something like
> a docking station, it isn't necessarily because it requires the
> docking station, it's because they don't allow you to switch the
> monitor, keyboard, and mouse from one machine to another by
> unplugging and re-plugging cables. They don't like users swapping
> cables on machines.
>
> A cheaper, and likely just as acceptable setup, would be a dedicated
> USB keyboard and mouse (and you'll probably want the mouse for the
> laptop anyway - most people do like having one to supplement the
> finger pad), as well as a dedicated display that you could plug
> into. Or, there are also two station USB KVM switches that would
> work. Those would start getting close in price to the docking
> station, however. But... if you plan to share the monitor, you may
> need one anyway. And if you have one, you may not really need the
> docking station, unless you really want it.
>
> For the most part, docking stations don't seem to be required
> anymore. Everyone seemed to realize that they were just an
> unnecessary expense that didn't really add much other than possibly
> reducing the number of cables you have to hook up, and that's
> minimal... hardly justifies the cost.
>
> The best way to know for sure is to check what your security people
> will require. Don't forget about the network connection either....
> if you are attaching to the local network, you'll likely have to ask
> for an additional connection, and you'll need to know if that will
> mean any additional hardware (whomever provides your network
> connection may just want to split off your current connection using
> a hub, and if so, will they require that you buy it, or is it
> already in place?)
>
> Kim
>
> Kimberly Cummings Hersh
> Apple Team Lead
> NSA Systems and Network Analysis Center (SNAC)
> 410-854-5192
> email@hidden
>
> On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:06 PM, email@hidden wrote:
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:21:36 -0400
>> From: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden>
>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Recommended Docking Station for MacBook Pro
>> To: Joel Esler <email@hidden>
>> Cc: Apple Fed Talk <email@hidden>
>> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Thanks. I thought the bluetooth was a no go? And what kind of
>> cables do you use? My main concern is hooking up to a (Samsung)
>> monitor. Though if my USB mouse and keyboard work, too, all the
>> better. The docking station was more for security than anything
>> else.
>>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:40:53 -0600
From: Allan Marcus <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Window 7 for students : $ 29.00
To: Apple Fed Talk <email@hidden>
Message-ID: <email@hidden>
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delsp=yes
even cooler, all you need is an edu address to get it. as a UC
Berkeley alum I have email@hidden, which I checked
will work.
Looks like I'll be able to upgrade my VM :-)
---
Thanks,
Allan Marcus
505-667-5666
On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:42 PM, Kim, Andrew (SCC) wrote:
>
> Microsoft is offering college student a hefty price slice on it?s
> upcoming Windows 7 Operating System by matching Apple?s Snow
> Leopard upgrade.
> Interesting enough, to help promote the limited time price break,
> Microsoft launched a New Website: http://www.win741.com/
> ,that also tells students just how hip with Wins 7.
>
> Unfortunately, the promotion includes Windows 7 Home Premium and
> Professional editions, and is good through January 3, 2010.
> Considering how poorly Windows Vista was received, Microsoft needs
> something to help boost consumer interest in its new operating system.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy Kim
> US Senate
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:52:11 -0500
From: "Walls, Bryan K. (MSFC-IS30)" <email@hidden>
Subject: [Fed-Talk] docks
To: Allan Marcus <email@hidden>
Cc: Apple Fed Talk <email@hidden>
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Note that production of docks has been lagging new machines
significantly. Docks for the 13" and 15" MBPs released June 8 aren't
yet shipping (but are expected this month).
http://www.bookendzdocks.com/
By the time they are available, Apple may have new models out.
Also, we've had quite a lot of problems with the version that is
shipping (for the pre-SD card Macs). Mostly with the audio plug
docking correctly, I think.
YMMV.
On Sep 18, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Allan Marcus wrote:
> I disagree on the docking station. I commonly have 2 USB, a firewire,
> a monitor, speakers, and power connected to my laptop. I take my
> laptop to meetings and home on weekends, and dealing with all those
> cables, especially making sure they don't fall behind the desk, was
> well worth the cost of the dock.
>
> If you rarely take the computer with you, then it might not be needed.
> If you take the computer with you and you have lots of cables, it's
> fantastic.
>
> Just depends on your situation.
>
> ---
> Thanks,
>
> Allan Marcus
> 505-667-5666
>
>
>
> On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Kim Hersh wrote:
>
>> If you are looking at what you need for security reasons, it depends
>> mainly on what the security requirements for your area are. If I
>> had to guess, I would say that Bluetooth would not be allowed, but
>> you would have to check what the security plan for the network to
>> which you would be attaching the machine.
>>
>> In any case, most of the time, when security requires something like
>> a docking station, it isn't necessarily because it requires the
>> docking station, it's because they don't allow you to switch the
>> monitor, keyboard, and mouse from one machine to another by
>> unplugging and re-plugging cables. They don't like users swapping
>> cables on machines.
>>
>> A cheaper, and likely just as acceptable setup, would be a dedicated
>> USB keyboard and mouse (and you'll probably want the mouse for the
>> laptop anyway - most people do like having one to supplement the
>> finger pad), as well as a dedicated display that you could plug
>> into. Or, there are also two station USB KVM switches that would
>> work. Those would start getting close in price to the docking
>> station, however. But... if you plan to share the monitor, you may
>> need one anyway. And if you have one, you may not really need the
>> docking station, unless you really want it.
>>
>> For the most part, docking stations don't seem to be required
>> anymore. Everyone seemed to realize that they were just an
>> unnecessary expense that didn't really add much other than possibly
>> reducing the number of cables you have to hook up, and that's
>> minimal... hardly justifies the cost.
>>
>> The best way to know for sure is to check what your security people
>> will require. Don't forget about the network connection either....
>> if you are attaching to the local network, you'll likely have to ask
>> for an additional connection, and you'll need to know if that will
>> mean any additional hardware (whomever provides your network
>> connection may just want to split off your current connection using
>> a hub, and if so, will they require that you buy it, or is it
>> already in place?)
>>
>> Kim
>>
>> Kimberly Cummings Hersh
>> Apple Team Lead
>> NSA Systems and Network Analysis Center (SNAC)
>> 410-854-5192
>> email@hidden
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:06 PM, email@hidden wrote:
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 5
>>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:21:36 -0400
>>> From: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden>
>>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Recommended Docking Station for MacBook Pro
>>> To: Joel Esler <email@hidden>
>>> Cc: Apple Fed Talk <email@hidden>
>>> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> Thanks. I thought the bluetooth was a no go? And what kind of
>>> cables do you use? My main concern is hooking up to a (Samsung)
>>> monitor. Though if my USB mouse and keyboard work, too, all the
>>> better. The docking station was more for security than anything
>>> else.
>>>
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:59:05 -0400
From: James Alcasid <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] docks
To: "Walls, Bryan K. (MSFC-IS30)" <email@hidden>, Allan Marcus
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I use to use them but no longer, it takes less than one minute to plug in
all your peripherals and there are no costs, space requirements or anything
to break. I think the vertical laptop stands are nice and take up less space
but have not used one yet.
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> From: "Walls, Bryan K. (MSFC-IS30)" <email@hidden>
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:52:11 -0500
> To: Allan Marcus <email@hidden>
> Cc: Fed Talk <email@hidden>
> Subject: [Fed-Talk] docks
>
> Note that production of docks has been lagging new machines
> significantly. Docks for the 13" and 15" MBPs released June 8 aren't
> yet shipping (but are expected this month).
>
> http://www.bookendzdocks.com/
>
> By the time they are available, Apple may have new models out.
>
> Also, we've had quite a lot of problems with the version that is
> shipping (for the pre-SD card Macs). Mostly with the audio plug
> docking correctly, I think.
>
> YMMV.
>
> On Sep 18, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Allan Marcus wrote:
>
>> I disagree on the docking station. I commonly have 2 USB, a firewire,
>> a monitor, speakers, and power connected to my laptop. I take my
>> laptop to meetings and home on weekends, and dealing with all those
>> cables, especially making sure they don't fall behind the desk, was
>> well worth the cost of the dock.
>>
>> If you rarely take the computer with you, then it might not be needed.
>> If you take the computer with you and you have lots of cables, it's
>> fantastic.
>>
>> Just depends on your situation.
>>
>> ---
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Allan Marcus
>> 505-667-5666
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Kim Hersh wrote:
>>
>>> If you are looking at what you need for security reasons, it depends
>>> mainly on what the security requirements for your area are. If I
>>> had to guess, I would say that Bluetooth would not be allowed, but
>>> you would have to check what the security plan for the network to
>>> which you would be attaching the machine.
>>>
>>> In any case, most of the time, when security requires something like
>>> a docking station, it isn't necessarily because it requires the
>>> docking station, it's because they don't allow you to switch the
>>> monitor, keyboard, and mouse from one machine to another by
>>> unplugging and re-plugging cables. They don't like users swapping
>>> cables on machines.
>>>
>>> A cheaper, and likely just as acceptable setup, would be a dedicated
>>> USB keyboard and mouse (and you'll probably want the mouse for the
>>> laptop anyway - most people do like having one to supplement the
>>> finger pad), as well as a dedicated display that you could plug
>>> into. Or, there are also two station USB KVM switches that would
>>> work. Those would start getting close in price to the docking
>>> station, however. But... if you plan to share the monitor, you may
>>> need one anyway. And if you have one, you may not really need the
>>> docking station, unless you really want it.
>>>
>>> For the most part, docking stations don't seem to be required
>>> anymore. Everyone seemed to realize that they were just an
>>> unnecessary expense that didn't really add much other than possibly
>>> reducing the number of cables you have to hook up, and that's
>>> minimal... hardly justifies the cost.
>>>
>>> The best way to know for sure is to check what your security people
>>> will require. Don't forget about the network connection either....
>>> if you are attaching to the local network, you'll likely have to ask
>>> for an additional connection, and you'll need to know if that will
>>> mean any additional hardware (whomever provides your network
>>> connection may just want to split off your current connection using
>>> a hub, and if so, will they require that you buy it, or is it
>>> already in place?)
>>>
>>> Kim
>>>
>>> Kimberly Cummings Hersh
>>> Apple Team Lead
>>> NSA Systems and Network Analysis Center (SNAC)
>>> 410-854-5192
>>> email@hidden
>>>
>>> On Sep 17, 2009, at 3:06 PM, email@hidden wrote:
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:21:36 -0400
>>>> From: "Villano, Paul Mr CIV USA TRADOC" <email@hidden>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Recommended Docking Station for MacBook Pro
>>>> To: Joel Esler <email@hidden>
>>>> Cc: Apple Fed Talk <email@hidden>
>>>> Message-ID: <email@hidden>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I thought the bluetooth was a no go? And what kind of
>>>> cables do you use? My main concern is hooking up to a (Samsung)
>>>> monitor. Though if my USB mouse and keyboard work, too, all the
>>>> better. The docking station was more for security than anything
>>>> else.
>>>>
>>>
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