Re: [Fed-Talk] Snow Leopard transition creates problems
Re: [Fed-Talk] Snow Leopard transition creates problems
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Snow Leopard transition creates problems
- From: Aleksandr Auzers <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:43:35 -0700
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- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Snow Leopard transition creates problems
Title: Re: [Fed-Talk] Snow Leopard transition creates problems
Also, Rex, 10.5 runs on older Macs, unless you’re talking about those with G3 chips or something. This doesn’t necessarily help you with licensing issues, but 10.5 is the last version that supports PowerPC chips, not 10.4. The one huge caveat is that 10.5 removes Classic support, so if you’ve got legacy applications that depend on that, you must stick with 10.4 or earlier.
Of course, you’re right that Apple doesn’t sell 10.5 anymore, but if you can work something out vis a vis special licensing, this information might be of some use to you.
Full disclosure: I’m not a federal employee, so you’ll want to confirm everything I’ve said. Call Apple if you want... :)
Thanks!
Alex
On 9/30/09 8:52 AM, "Pike, Michael (IHS/NPA)" <email@hidden> wrote:
I wish they would do that with the iPhone os as well. 3.1 is crap. Even Peter Cohen of macworld (well formerly of macworld) is tweeting about lock ups, terrible battery life, etc.
Mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 30, 2009, at 6:27 AM, "Nichols, Jared - 1160 - MITLL" <email@hidden> wrote:
We also have run into this and our Apple representative confirmed that the EULA or any other legal agreement between Apple and us does not forbid the rollback of the OS as long as the hardware supports it. We are still legally within the license to do so.
j
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Jared F. Nichols
Desktop Engineer, Infrastructure & Operations
Information Services Department
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
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781.981.5436
On Sep 29, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Allan Marcus wrote:
We worked with our local Apple reseller and Apple to get permission to
install 10.5 on any machine that comes in with 10.6. Until Apple
releases new hardware this is 10.6 dependent, which you know it will,
we just install 10.5 on all new machines. Those that have the 10.6
drop in DVD or Installer DVD are licensed for 10.6 once we start to
allow it.
I ended up posted Install DVD images for all the hardware platforms
Apple sells on our internal Web site so our field techs can download
them as needed. The field tech needs to restore the image onto an
external drive, then simply boot from the external drive to install
the software.
This has always been an issue with Apple and their enterprise folks
are well aware of it.
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Thanks,
Allan Marcus
505-667-5666
On Sep 28, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Rex Sanders wrote:
The release of Mac OS X v10.6 Snow Leopard has created big problems
for us,
that have nothing to do with Snow Leopard bugs or new features.
10.4 - apparently no longer supported by Apple, including security
fixes.
We must move users to 10.5 or newer, except ...
10.5 - no longer sold, and won't run on older Macs, so we should buy
new
Macs, which run ...
10.6 - which is not yet supported by key third party products (e.g.
Symantec AV, ADmitMac, Juniper VPN, ...), and in some cases won't be
supported until next spring. That means 10.6 is banned for a while.
Switching to different third-party products is not an option for us.
Catch-22? (*)
In theory - all our 10.4 users, and new Mac users, must get a PC
running
... Windows XP, since we don't support Vista, and Windows 7 isn't
approved
yet.
At least I get more time to write a 10.6 STIG.
Would it kill Apple to sell 10.N-1 for a few months after the
release of
10.N? At least to large customers?
Any chance Apple could get enterprise-critical third-party vendors
on board
for new Mac OS X releases?
Could the "viruses not a problem on Mac OS X" meme lead to delays in
releasing updated anti-virus software for Macs?
-- Rex Sanders, USGS
(*) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_(logic) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-22_(logic)>
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