Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple / AT&T Exclusivity Agreement
Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple / AT&T Exclusivity Agreement
- Subject: Re: [Fed-Talk] Apple / AT&T Exclusivity Agreement
- From: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 15:17:36 -0400
- Acceptlanguage: en-US
- Thread-topic: [Fed-Talk] Apple / AT&T Exclusivity Agreement
I use all of it since 6am today and it's 13:16. Have 78% battery. It will make it well into the evening.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G Android Phone
----- Reply message -----
From: "Joel Esler" <email@hidden>
Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2010 1:13 pm
Subject: [Fed-Talk] Apple / AT&T Exclusivity Agreement
To: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
Cc: "email@hidden" <email@hidden>, "email@hidden" <email@hidden>, "email@hidden" <email@hidden>
You are going to have to have something better to compare than fancy
wallpapers and an expose switch. Or widgets. All that stuff kills
your battery. No thanks. I'd rather not have to switch my battery at
lunch time.
--
Joel Esler
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 10, 2010, at 3:06 PM, "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden
> wrote:
> The iPhone does not allow an expose display in springboard.
>
> The snapdragon is 1ghz. The iPhone does not video chat on anything
> other than WiFi.
>
> The iPhone does not have live wallpaper.
>
> The iPhone does not have widgets to applications that overlay the
> desktop.
>
> I don't want to sound like the Droid does commercials, but that's
> what it sounds like.
>
> There are things the iPhone is capable of doing (jailbroken ones do
> all of it) but as Apple has implemented and permits it will do none
> of which I've stated.
>
> And I have used iPhone 4 quite extensively on my 3gs for
> development. Nothing impressed me to the point of "gotta have" like
> the first two.
>
> Mike
>
> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G Android Phone
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Dave Schroeder" <email@hidden>
> Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2010 12:49 pm
> Subject: [Fed-Talk] Apple / AT&T Exclusivity Agreement
> To: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
> Cc: "email@hidden" <email@hidden>, "email@hidden
> " <email@hidden>
>
> You said "it's faster"; "I enjoy unlimited expose style screens and
> not flicking through them" (i.e., multitasking).
>
> So you're saying that the EVO is faster than an iPhone 4 with the A4
> processor, and that Android multitasking is better than the iPhone
> 4.x multitasking implementation, which you haven't used yet?
> Interesting.
>
> (I'm sure you understand my point.)
>
> - Dave
>
> On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:40 AM, Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ) wrote:
>
>> After seeing what the new iPhone 4 does I an comparing it to the
>> iPhone 4
>>
>> IPhone 4 doesn't do any of the previously listed items.
>>
>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G Android Phone
>>
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "Dave Schroeder" <email@hidden>
>> Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2010 11:44 am
>> Subject: [Fed-Talk] Apple / AT&T Exclusivity Agreement
>> To: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
>> Cc: "email@hidden" <email@hidden>, "email@hidden
>> " <email@hidden>
>>
>> I already have an EVO from Google I/O; but that's not the point. I
>> didn't say it's not a good device, and Android is a good platform.
>>
>> The point is: why are you comparing a device that just came out to
>> year-old Apple devices and OSes?
>>
>> Why not compare the EVO to the forthcoming iPhone 4 and iOS 4.x,
>> which is really a more fair comparison?
>>
>> AT&T is just a red herring here, as it's only a matter of time
>> until other carrier options are available[1]; for example, iPhone 4
>> will be on a half-dozen different carriers in the UK alone.
>>
>> - Dave
>>
>> [1] There is one HUGE issue here: whether Apple chooses to make a
>> CDMA handset. The rest of the world over, iPhone can essentially be
>> the same GSM hardware. Though, Apple did make a version without Wi-
>> Fi for the China market, so it shows they're willing to at least
>> entertain different hardware, but making a non-GSM iPhone may end
>> up being a hurdle Apple doesn't want to deal with.
>>
>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ) wrote:
>>
>>> I pay the 29 and I get 6gb tethered traffic and unlimited phone
>>> traffic.
>>>
>>> ATT clumps them together and caps at two.
>>>
>>> I also use the EVO has a hotspot. I can share my connection with 7
>>> machines for that one 30 rate. IPhone is single connection tether
>>> using the same dataflow (2gb cap)
>>>
>>> Pay ATT to enable a function and get no additional data?
>>>
>>> I love Apple don't get me wrong but android has passed ios in my
>>> opinion. Perhaps you should use one.
>>>
>>> It's faster, definitely has all the useful apps ported already
>>> (290k apps of which 90 percent are crap is not good)
>>>
>>> Clouds fly across my home screen when a weather alert comes up.
>>> Ios... can't do it.
>>>
>>> I enjoy my background stars flying at warp speed while my icons
>>> move. I enjoy unlimited expose style screens and not flicking
>>> through them.
>>>
>>> I enjoy video chat over 3g, 4g and WiFi today.
>>>
>>> Give EVO a test drive. Thats all I am saying.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my HTC EVO 4G Android Phone
>>>
>>> ----- Reply message -----
>>> From: "Dave Schroeder" <email@hidden>
>>> Date: Thu, Jun 10, 2010 11:18 am
>>> Subject: [Fed-Talk] Apple / AT&T Exclusivity Agreement
>>> To: "Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ)" <email@hidden>
>>> Cc: "IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR" <email@hidden>, "email@hidden
>>> " <email@hidden>
>>>
>>> AT&T won't have butchered anything.
>>>
>>> I see that you ignored my points about Sprint banning all
>>> tethering without a specific $29.99/mo plan in response to your
>>> carping about AT&T's data rate changes, but that aside, the iPhone
>>> still has far more share than Android, and the only reason the 1Q
>>> numbers were they way they were is everyone waiting for iPhone 4.
>>>
>>> All of the mobile developers I'm talking with at WWDC have a
>>> common refrain: Android is incredibly fragmented both from an OS
>>> and device perspective. It's a great platform, but it only is what
>>> it is BECAUSE OF what the iPhone did in this space (forced a
>>> carrier to cede control of what goes on the handset, which forced
>>> others to do the same, creating a suitable marketplace for Android
>>> to even exist).
>>>
>>> I like the EVO too, but Android just isn't as polished as iOS. You
>>> have to compare apples to apples here; you can't say, "I'm jumping
>>> ship because AT&T does XYZ" when Sprint does the same thing, but
>>> your device just allows you to circumvent your contract provisions
>>> more easily.
>>>
>>> No one knows the exact state of the exclusivity agreement, but
>>> you're a fool if you believe Apple is going to stay with only AT&T
>>> one second longer than it stops being beneficial (and if there is
>>> a binding exclusivity agreement, as there is generally believe to
>>> be, there is no choice until that's up anyway).
>>>
>>> - Dave
>>>
>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Pike, Michael (IHS/HQ) wrote:
>>>
>>>> It's too late, at least for me... we dumped all 4 iphones and
>>>> went to Sprint HTC EVO last friday... it sucked because I do love
>>>> the iPhone, but ATT and the 30+ dropped calls and terrible
>>>> service had been enough for me... and to get a new iphone having
>>>> to get a 350 ETF... that was the final straw....
>>>>
>>>> And now I actually like the EOV more than the iPhone... with
>>>> Salling media it syncs to itunes perfectly, iphoto perfectly as
>>>> well... and the big screen is nice.. and the expose style screen
>>>> switching is a huge hit, reminds me of using OS X moreso than the
>>>> iPhone iOS) does...
>>>>
>>>> In two years the competition may all be this good and ATT may
>>>> very well end up having butchered the iPhone.
>>>>
>>>> mike
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 10:51 AM, IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ALCON,
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding of the Apple and AT&T iPhone agreement is that
>>>>> the
>>>>> currently executed contractual conditions are a five (5) year
>>>>> exclusivity agreement. Now, that being said, the predicates of
>>>>> what
>>>>> might offer relief to either side from the constraints of that
>>>>> exclusivity agreement were never made public.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, even if there were no relief option for the exclusivity
>>>>> agreement for Apple or AT&T, it would stand to reason that next
>>>>> year
>>>>> might well be the fifth year and relief would (ostensibly) be
>>>>> irrelevant anyway in that scenario, since I believe the iPhone's
>>>>> initiate release was at least three, maybe four years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> V/R,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stuart B. Tener
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR, N3GWG (Extra), MROP
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>>>>> Washington, DC
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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